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REDWRX Carbon RX-3 VS Hoyt Helix | Strong Shot Archery Reviews

August 12, 2019

what’s up guys welcome to another
episode of strong shot archery reviews where you get the most unbiased and objective reviews so
my personal preference doesn’t affect your money today we are doing another
bow comparison but this time we’re doing it with two brand new bows from the same
company these are the Hoyt REDWRX Carbon RX-3 in the Hoyt Helix. These are
two fairly similar bows but I’m going to go in-depth and show you all the
contrasts that I found. As always before we get started I just want to give a
quick thank you to Bear Creek Archery for sponsoring this video and also
providing both the bows in this video. They’re a local range in Denver Colorado
and they just got these bows in stock. So if you’re looking into a new 2019 Hoyt bow, make sure to check out Bear Creek archery or check out their
website at Also a quick thank you to my patreon
supporters, you guys are making these videos possible for everyone. If you’re
looking to improve your shooting, make sure to subscribe because I’m going to
be making videos on form tips, tuning methods, everything. I’ve also been asked
about doing online coaching. So if you’re working on your form and you want some
feedback to get you to the next level, shoot me an email to the email in the
description and we can talk about that. Now onto the reason that all you guys
are here, the Hoyt REWRX Carbon RX3 and the Hoyt Helix. Before I get into the
differences, I’ll start with the similarities so you know what these both
share. There’s a ton of the basic specs that are exactly the same. Both of
these bows have an axle to axle of 30 and 1/2 inches, which is fairly small
compared to its recent flagship hunting bows like the Carbon RX-1. The brace height for these bows are six inches but let’s turn to see if these bows will fit you.
I’m guessing they will since they have such a huge range of both draw lengths
and draw weights. The draw lengths for the RX-3 are 25 to 28 inches for the
number two cam and 27 to 30 inches for the number three cam. For the helix it
has a range of twenty four and a half inches to 28 inches and 27 inches to 30
inches for the two separate cams. As you can tell these draw lengths are
practically the same, but if you have a 24 and a half inch draw length today is
your lucky day, because the Helix will fit you perfectly according to the Hoyt
website. When it comes to draw weight ranges, both bows are available from 30
to 80 pounds. Let’s move our attention to the cams. Both these bows have the ZT pro cam, so they’ll both have the exact same draw force curve. Comparing this new cam to last year’s rx-1 you can see the changes that they’ve made. This year the
updated cam has trimmed down on some of the power on the front and back of the
draw in order to give it a smoother more controllable feel. The main thing to
understand is that these bows are sharing the exact same cams, limbs, and
limb pockets. And since they are set at the exact same specs for axle to axle and
brace height that are both going to give you the same power result which comes in at an advertised ATA speed of three hundred and forty three feet per second.
To wrap the list of similarities up, the dampening on these bows are almost the
same but slightly denser than last year’s dampeners on the RX-1. So in the
end when we compare the specs and features of these bows, a lot of it is
the same so pretty much what we’re doing is we’re looking at two separate risers
with a lot of the same parts. That being said, let’s look at how these risers are
different. First is of course that the RX 3 is a carbon composite riser and the
helix is all aluminum. That’s the main difference between these bows. The carbon fiber brings the bare bow weight of the rx-3 down to 3.9 pounds while the aluminum frame
of the helix weighs in at 4.3 pounds. So we’re talking about a half pound
difference, but aside from the weight the other concern is the geometry of these
bows. So let’s take a look at that. When we overlay the bows, you can see that
they’re practically the same. This makes sense since they share many of the basic
specs like the brace height and axle to axle. Even with the difference in
materials, when I measured the balance points they came out almost identical as
well. One thing that these bows do not share in common is the rear stabilizer
mount. The front stabilizer mount is in the exact same position, but the rear
stabilizer mount is where they really differ. For the rx-3 the rear mount is
right next to the string stop, rejecting the possibility of adding a V bar mount.
The helix rear mount is lower so you have the option of having a V bar mount.
The chances of wanting a V bar mount are slim to none, but it’s still a positive
thing to have it let’s move on to my favorite part of every video I do, the
grip. The grips share the exact same grip angle at 17 degrees, which is the common grip angle for most Hoyt bows. Both grips thicknesses are both the same
at about a quarter inch thicker than last year’s RX-1 grip. One way these
grips defer is the shape. You can see that the rx 3 has the new grip design
and the helix grip looks a lot more like the rx 1 grip. The RX 3 has something
brand-new that I’ve never seen before. This is the brand new lateral grip
adjustment. This can compensate for the natural torque that everyone has. I’ve
already talked about this in my other RX 3 video so I don’t want to drag on or
repeat myself, but aside from the riser this is probably one of the major
differences between these two bows. Both bows are using the exact same vibration
dampening but let’s see how the vibration varies from the two different
risers. As you can see from these graphs, the RX 3 and helix seem to have a
similar peak vibration, but the helix seems to be slightly larger. My belief is
that this is from how the carbon riser absorbs vibration. The carbon riser seems to dissipate the vibration faster than aluminum riser. This is without
stabilizers or any third party dampening so just because one bow has more
vibration than the other doesn’t mean it’s the end of the world. I grabbed from
my old target bows stripped off all the dampening and stabilizers, and no I’m not
going to tell you what though it is, but here are the results without anything.
This is as loud as this bow could be with it is still in tune. Now that we
have that data let’s see what would happen if we add a simple stabilizer to
it and no it’s not an expensive stabilizer it’s just a cheap one that I
want as a door prize at a tournament. So let’s see what happens. You can see that
just a stabilizer can help with vibration dampening. Look at how both the size of the hand shock drops as well as the length of time if the vibration
continues. So you can imagine if you have just a basic stabilizer and other
dampening materials you can really make a difference in how your bow feels. The
only negative part about needing to put on the extra damping products is adding
weight to the bow. And depending on the archer, this could be a big problem or
not important at all. Your first concern should always be how well the bow
settles, there’s so much you can do with vibration, so just keep in mind that’ll
add extra weight to the bow. Finally, the last big difference that I think a lot
of people noticed is the price. The MSRP on the RX-3 is $1,699 while the helix has an MSRP of one
$1,199. That’s a huge $500 difference. What you’re gaining with the extra $500 is a
new grip design that was capable of being laterally adjusted, a lighter riser
since the RX-3 is carbon, and lastly you’ll have a quieter bow with less
vibration and shock. These are two high quality bows from a
top-tier brand with a huge price difference. The bows share a lot in common from components to specs like the ZT pro cam, limbs, limb pockets, axle to axle,
brace height, roller cable slide, and the dampeners. So they are extremely similar
bows. The differences are simple. The riser materials, the grip, the performance
of the dampening, and the price. The first question you should ask yourself when
choosing between these two bows is, “is weight a deciding factor for you.” There
is roughly a half of a pound difference in weight, which doesn’t sound like much,
but every ounce matters when you’re hiking with a bow in your hand. So if
having a light bow is a necessity, the rx-3 would have the advantage. Next
is on to the dampening. Having a quiet bow can really be important and both of
these bows are fairly quiet, but the rx-3 is quieter than the helix because of its
carbon riser. These vibration specs are just starting points, there’s so much you
can do with vibration, so you could just add a stabilizer or other third party
dampening products. Finally is the grip. When buying the helix you will
be missing out on the new lateral adjustment that the RX 3 provides. This
could be really helpful especially if you’re looking for one more way to
remove torque from your bow. So if these features aren’t worth the additional cost,
the helix might be the bow for you. But if you really desire the latest and
greatest, a bow that is light, quiet, and adjustable. The RX 3 could be your bow. In the end when you’re walking into your range, you need to be thinking about four
things. Weight, grip, vibration, and credit card balance. Thank you guys so much for watching, make sure to check out my patreon link down below. And the Mathews Vertix is coming out soon so make sure to subscribe because I’m 100% going to do a review on that bow. And click that bell icon so you
get notified whenever I post that video. Thank you guys so much and see you guys in the next one, later.

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  1. We need to see actual weight of both bows .the word on the street is the RX3 is actually coming it at 4.40lbs not 3.9lbs .can you verify?

  2. Good job on the comparison Samuel.
    I don't intend to hijack this video but when you have an opportunity I'm curious of your thoughts on the new Divergent from Bear. I needed a new bow and was not looking toward buying used but I was severely tempted at going with used Triax (was looking to get a shorter ATA) . $800 was my upper limit
    Really came down to either a Nitrux or Divergent (both felt great but know that I've only been shooting for 3 years with entry level bows) and decided to go with the Divergent. Which now that I think about it, that would make a decent comparison video right there.
    I will admit that it surprises me that this model does not get a lot of attention especially considering its price tag
    Keep up the good work

  3. Another nice video Sam. I like that you added teaser at the end (vertix), you have to give your audience reason to subscribe. Suggestion for your Patreon page, make donation chart with matching benefit. For example, donate $5.00 per month for free video review of form, $10 per month live video session… or something like it.

  4. Got an RX1 with all accessories and an expensive sight for 800$. But sorry a friend sold it to me, no secret bow shop with discounts. And great video. Your explanations and graphic tables are reason I am a subscriber and check out videos.

  5. Great vid but I hate how everyone talks about a 7 pound rifle being super light but a 4 pound bow is a pile of bricks lol. This generation needs to hit the gym ?

  6. Time to quit your day job and do more reviews/comparisons. These are the best reviews I've found on the inter-web thing yet. Since I'm in the market to upgrade this year, you can't crank out these reviews fast enough. Keep up the good work!

  7. I've heard the RX3's riser is carbon wrapped over aluminum. Can anyone confirm or deny? The carbon Hoyts have always been suspiciously heavy.

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