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Propaganda Games – Ethical Game Design – Extra Credits

September 13, 2019

*intro* Yayy, this will be fun. Before we start going into the subject of propaganda games, I do have one caveat to mention – the games we’ve chosen to talk about in relation to this topic are all several years old, and this is intentional. Their age doesn’t diminish their value as examples, but it does limit the additional attention and hits that this episode may generate for some of these products. I don’t want to give some of these things traffic. They don’t deserve it. A little warning – going in, some of this stuff is pretty vile. And with that, here we go. As you know, we spend a lot of time talking about the power of the video game. Its unique position as the first interactive mass medium, and its growing global influence as a cultural force: lots of exciting stuff. But with that exciting stuff comes some unpleasant stuff as well. We love to talk about the incredible possibilities for the future that games offer us. We talk about them as an emerging art form; a new way to explore the human condition and a leisure activity that will soon be more common than watching TV. But unfortunately the very things that make this medium powerful can also make it dangerous. Its strength as a tool for exploring who we are can also make it a powerful instrument for indoctrination. One of the greatest things about games is how they provide us with a choice. They give us agency over our actions. They make us believe that we’re in control, and we’re deciding our destinies for ourselves. Even in simple games like Super Mario Brothers, whether we succeed or fail is in our hand. And how we go about doing so is a choice that each one of us gets to make. Of course no game gives us truly unlimited choice, and many games only include the illusion of it. But what if a game were to willfully deceive or to try and trick the player into thinking that the choices they made were their own, when they were actually tightly constrained for other real world purposes? What if the choices within a game were carefully crafted to all exist from a specific mindset or a specific Outlook on life? What if they got you so wrapped up in making these choices, that you didn’t think about the perspective you are making these choices from? That would be a propaganda game. James started researching this subject a while ago to prepare for a lecture he’d be giving. Here’s what he had to say: When I first started thinking about this subject, I was looking at a game called Harpooned: Japanese Crustacean Research Simulator it’s a send-up of Japanese whale research as whale research in Japan is often accused of just being a cover for the whaling industry to protect it from international regulations. In Harpooned do you ride around harpooning dozens of whales turning them into whale burgers in the name of research! Playing it made me feel pretty much how you’d expect; amused, but also a bit upset that this is something people actually get away with. I decided to do some research on the controversial issue itself, and after much reading in some thought I decided all right. I’m okay with this game I’ve done my research, and I’m fine with these guys lampooning something that’s actually happening. I was about to leave it at that and put it out of my mind when I was struck with a question Was I really only okay with this because I agreed with the conclusion they reached? After all I’d like my nieces and nephews to still be able to see a whale in their lifetime. So I had no problem with the games message, but would I have even realized it if I did ? If I hadn’t over thought this would I have looked into it? Would I have even realized the way the games mechanics tried to lead me to a specific conclusion and way of thinking? And most importantly had this already happened to me other places without me realizing it? That was a scary thought. I began to cast about the internet looking for other games to explore this principle. The obvious first choice was of course America’s Army. For those of you who never played it, it’s a recruitment tool made by the U.S. military. It was built with tax dollars and developed in-house by Army personnel. It actually does a remarkable job of teaching things like medical training, and still manages to be pretty engaging at the same time. But it did make me extremely uncomfortable. I know too many military families to have anything but respect for the people on the ground, but still though, the game itself was disquieting. It was a game designed as a military recruiting tool aimed at people still in high school. Given away for free so that people who couldn’t afford a console or a full-priced first-person shooter could still play. It both teaches things a soldier needs to know and reinforces military ideals, but never once does it really question the moral dilemmas that anyone entering the army today will have to face. It acknowledges the physical danger of the situation, but carefully avoids the larger questions that come with holding a gun. Hoping to further understand my discomfort I decided to show America’s army to a particularly jingoistic acquaintance of mine. If it says America he’s pretty much all for it, but he’s also an intelligent guy, and I wanted his take. I showed him the game, and he endorsed it wholeheartedly. He said it was a great way to reach out to those kids with no direction in their lives. Okay, interesting. I then showed my friend some games similar to the Special Force series: a set of games made by Hezbollah in which you take on the role of the Arab fighter for Hezbollah fighting the Israeli Defense Force it plays like any Modern War FPS But with the roles reversed. This time, the guy was horrified. He said this is why we have to be careful what games we let kids play. Well? I had learned all I needed to. Like any propaganda, games aren’t effective when you think about them as such but what about when you don’t I dug deeper and started to really wade into the mire of what a propaganda game can mean I found games like Anti-Japan War Online a quote “patriotic MMO” made by the communist youth league set in the 1937 to 1945 Conflict between Japan and China It’s an MMO where the mobs you grind are Japanese men the developers have talked about how they made the Japanese models subtly uglier in order to express the superiority of the Chinese, but it really hit me when I tried the most loathsome repulsive disgusting game I’ve ever played: Zog’s nightmare zog stands for the Zionist Occupied Government and as a game put out by Neo-Nazi hate groups, it’s one of the most pathetic repugnant displays of maldirected hate I’ve ever seen. I wasn’t even able to get all the way through. I try to never shy away from a product, no matter how noisesome and hateful, if it’ll lead to clarity and shared understanding in the end. But I stopped at the point where you’re dropped into a prison to beat homosexuals and African-Americans to death with your bare hands. Please don’t Google this game. Just don’t give them the traffic. I usually say all knowledge has value, but honestly what we’ve said here is probably all the exposure you’re going to want to this disgusting mess. But it was while playing this game that I had one real revelation: that propaganda games, while terrible, aren’t the real danger at least not yet.
They are something to be aware of, because being aware of them means that we can recognize them and then we can resist them. The real danger lies in lazy design in the propensity to accidentally indoctrinate. For example, think about how many shooters today use Muslims as the default enemy. They’ve kind of become the American Indian for our generation and much as we look back now and cringe at the old westerns that glorify the wholesale slaughter of Native Americans, someday I expect we’re going to probably look back with horror at this huge pile of shoddily made modern conflict games in which the main activity is shooting anybody with a turban on their head. But what really makes this dangerous is that we’re using all the skinner box techniques and all the compulsion mechanisms we’ve talked about before to incentivize the killing of people of a specific origin. Now if this sort of thing was happening in a true propaganda game, we’d notice it. We’d see it. We’d think “Oh. Hey, that’s propaganda”, and then it wouldn’t be able to affect us. But they’re not, so our defenses aren’t up. I think back to the days when Gears of War had come out way back before Call of Duty 4 took the world by storm And ushered in the age of the modern war games looking back I don’t remember hearing a fraction of the racial slurs related to Muslims or Arabs used as a generic put-down on XBox live I mean it was way after 9/11 and the us was in two Middle Eastern Wars But I rarely heard that Particular kind of slur flying around and now I hear them regularly and maybe that’s just my experience. And I don’t have any official statistics to give on that, but speaking for myself, I’ve heard enough of it to start feeling concerned look my point is there’s danger in mechanically incentivizing actions in the game without thinking about what those actions mean. By making the goal of these games to kill people of other races, you’re training people by fooling them into thinking they’re choosing. It’s their choice to pull the trigger they earned that headshot they made that kill and because of those compelling moment-to-moment choices You successfully divert them away from thinking about the larger questions. Why am I killing these people? Are they really my enemies? We see it again with sexualization. It may not seem like a big deal if you’re male, but you know how in many rPGs as you level and get better gear the men’s armor tends to get bulkier and more ornate, while the women’s armor tends to get more and more revealing, right? And this would be fine if the aesthetics were decoupled from the mechanics. But in many of these games the more revealing clothing is mechanically better somehow, which effectively means to succeed in this game as a female character, you must make yourself more and more of a sex object. I know it’s not what the designers were thinking when they made it, but that’s what their mechanics are communicating. This is what I’m talking about when I say lazy design. Now, don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying that games can desensitize us to violence or turn us into killers. Those are areas where we have some pretty strong mental barriers built up. But they can certainly have as much effect as any other piece of culture, be it the news media or Hollywood. So just be vigilant, and watch for games that state a point of view rather than laying out a space of possibility for you to explore. If we’re careful and we look at the broader picture of the games painting and examine what questions it doesn’t ask as thoroughly as what questions it does, we can call out propaganda games and protect ourselves from the subtle dangers of lazy design. And let me tell you no designer is perfect. No one can completely remove their point of view when creating. Even when building a totally neutral space of possibility, the boundaries of that space are defined by our biases and our limitations. So to those of you designing out there: No one expects you to be perfect. But things do get a whole lot worse when we don’t try. More on that next week. See you then!

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  1. Muslims are achual VERY RARE Enemys in games I would say that Russians Germans and Chinese are by far most common ….

  2. Reminds me of fable 2, a leveled up female character wasn’t skinny with big breasts, but rather a she hulk. when I first saw it, my first thought was “finally” and then a had some respect for peter molignuex

  3. Fiction is fiction. We should not restrict anything at all in fiction. That is controlling creative freedom, even if the whole world doesn't like the material and messages being presented. I think this is the wrong way to go about it

  4. Ok so most MMO's were most likely made by men sat in front of computers for most of their lives. That whole armour difference between genders thing is totally purposeful.

  5. I wonder what the people would say if someone make an fps game, where the story is set in th US, and the enemy is the US instead of the middle eastern countries, I wonder how the world would react, especially I wonder how American would react

  6. Soooo I'm working on a game that has Success and Discipline as a theme. It's a CCG. If you fuse "Conspiracy Theorist" and "Alternative Healer" with "Confirmation BIas" you will get "Captain Anti Vaxx". Now is that propaganda? Because I make fun about negative Mindset a LOT.

  7. All games has bias cause we as human are biased. Bias is also called ideas. Man with no drive of ideas won't have enough motivation to do anything.

  8. The moral questions of holding a gun? It's a tool, like any other. That's like asking about the moral implications of holding a baseball bat.

  9. I generally agree with the point you make in this video, but I would like to explore the realm of philosophy a bit here. I think much of the "lazy design" and "propaganda" in media is more or less something that has always existed even far before video games, TV, or even movies. As far back as even the first recorded written novel, the concept of portraying an entire group of people as "evil" has been a constant aspect throughout humanity and is nothing new. Would I say this makes it morally ok? Not at all, at least from my perspective, but is it an understandable stance? Most certainly. In literature there is a need for a challenge that the protagonist to overcome. Generally this is in the form of a battle of some kind. Often times this battle is portrayed with a large group of people, usually of one specific demographic, portrayed as the enemy of the hero. This emphasis is commonly taken up either by the writers own prejudices or the prejudices of the selected consumer. It is generally easier to point at a single group and say "this is bad" than it is to try and accept the humanity of both the hero and the enemy. Some media has tried to do this but it is incredibly difficult to pull off and most fail to explore the view of both sides.

  10. Key takeaway as someone designing a serious game: I better not introduce misconceptions.

    Btw, what's the game at 7:31?

  11. Hey those games where you kill terrorists are created because they are the only enemy that the US faces in modern war. Just like any war game about WWII is you killing Germans

  12. Your point about modern shooters glorifying the mass murder of muslims is false in my opinion, the only reason why games set lots of people that look like muslims (and most of the times aren't specified to be muslims) is because thats the main religion and clothing that they have in the middle east, its like having a game set in northern ireland where your tasked with killing IRA members, is the game saying to murder all cathlocks? No, and I don't think that modern shooters are saying to kill all muslims. The reason most modern shooters are set in the middle east is due to many factors, familiar camos mostly being desert do to america's recent wars with the east and due to the fact that their the most memorable wars in the modern era.

  13. (4:10) That reminds me of the YouTuber who looked at world maps and statistics, and one of them was what country people of each country in general dislike. The person didn't had any issue with any country being disliked, except for when USA was disliked, and questioned the validity of the data.

  14. Remember, not all of these are propaganda at all, but games designed purposefully to create controversy for the sake of publicity.

  15. Video games are supposed to take you away from real life , these games defeat the purpose , sure it may be a way to bring attention to an issue for example….but there are better ways to learn about social issues ect

  16. July 3rd 2019 and Extra Credits made a COLOSSALLY idiotic political video compared to something like this one.

  17. extra credits 2012: "im not saying games can desensitize us to violence"

  18. I’m definitely straight away going to play zog’s nightmare now all the way through and then recommend to my friends, little brothers, their friends, and any other easily influenced developing young minds ?

  19. Man this channel is just one wokeconomics dumpster fire after another huh? PC culture is ruining the world.

  20. Wouldn't doubt for a second that Extra Credits is ran by a joo.

    Thinking about 50% Ashkenasi, maybe even a little bolshevik blood in em.

  21. How do you compare this video to your 'Stop Normalizing Nazis…' ?!?!?! These videos points and logic are completely different!

  22. This episode really pushes the point that July 3rd's 2019 video was attempting to make much more eloquently.

  23. The Nazi video linked me to this video trying to prove a point, But this video prove the Nazi video wrong. This is hilariously stupid.

  24. why are you killing those people? Because its an online team deathmatch and the point is to eliminate the enemy for sport because its a battle of reflex and wit for leisure.
    are they really your enemy? no, they are just other people engaging in the sport of what is dodgeball horribly modded to simulate war.
    I love how they used this video to jusitfy that normalize nazi video. disgusting.

  25. @5:48 Islam is a Religion of Peace!!!!!

    A piece of you over here ???
    A piece of you over there ???


  26. funny thing when people complain about 9/11…guys USA was at war with 2 or more countries before 9/11..wouldnt u expect an enemy hit ur HQ? i would..everything is planned both inside and outside to aim at specific group..yep that's Muslims…when someone so proud of their military and security don't have clue on how an airplane going off-route..just dumb

    people forgot what is war its law of jungle..

  27. I went back and watched this video, just to remind myself that EC used to make well-reasoned, intelligent videos. Please return the competent leadership to the group, and return to that era.

  28. You guys should check out Red Dead Redemption 2 It's a Wonderful Cowboy Slim with a open-world idea you can explore you can do anything you want

  29. I think a great game is Fable 3. In it, you make promises, you can choose to keep those promises. But the game doesn't let you forget that decision. If you spare an enemy, the people will hate you.
    If you kill an enemy, the people will love you, but fear you. You can choose to steal, kill, harass, execute, vandalise, trespass, fight, or you can defend, spare, pay honestly,knock, make peace, and still be good or evil. It's your choice. P.s. you can choose gender ,and sexuality.

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