NU’s Archery Q&A | October 2016
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NU’s Archery Q&A | October 2016

August 11, 2019


Hey guys, this is Nu Sensei today we have another archery Q&A and this one’s a little late, I’ve been busy with school, work, exams and that sort of thing I’m currently waiting for response from Archery Australia for those who don’t know I’ve disputed a copyright infringement with Archery Australia in their last national newsletter they used one of my images as a heading and that was obviously without my approval the article itself did not meet my standards and I did not write it more than I sourced it or endorse it so there are a few things which i want to clarify. I do know that A.A. do take a while to respond to things so this was last Thursday night currently today is Wednesday so I don’t expect an immediate response I’d much rather them take their time to deliver the proper response rather than rush it through and give me a substandard guarantee so I’m just waiting for that to happen I do have the shirt on so i’m representing Australia still but it would be nice to clarify that Anyway, this month I’ve got a few questions which I’ve hand picked from the Facebook page and YouTube comments a few from emails. This time around this will be a “I don’t know” edition because a lot of the questions I can’t answer if I haven’t picked your question, either it was something I don’t know personally or it’s something that’s quite complex and I’d need to spend more time doing a whole video to answer that question the first question comes from Mark and Mark asked, when waxing the string do you need to wax the serving? the answer is no the purpose of waxing the string is to make sure the string is nice and lubricated so the strands don’t rub together too much and fray and therefore extend the lifespan of the string the serving covers the string so waxing it achieves nothing A question from Jernej, are grips on recurve risers interchangeable? this I’m not entirely sure about I do know that manufacturers will release replacement grips for their own brand Hoyt would make Hoyt replacement grips. I’m not sure if they are interchangeable so if someone does know please post below as I have no idea I’ve only used Win & Win and I haven’t used a replacement a grip get so I honestly don’t know Stefan asked how do I know if my finger tab is the right size one of the frustrating things with buying finger tabs is there’s really no way to measure finger tab and I basically categorize my hands to certain sizes juniors and kids and young females that have small hands the average person has medium hands whereas your bigger people tend to have large hands but that’s a very broad category if you have a finger tab then then the best way to judge is to decide does the leather or the the part of the finger tab about enough of your fingers, if it’s too small there won’t be enough coverage if it’s too large there’ll be too much leather it will flop around and you cant put your fingers on the string properly, if it’s just the right size it should be a slight little overlap like that and you should have enough coverage for your fingers but not too much of the finger tab slipping off it’s probably easy to get a larger tab and trim it down to size rather than trying to use a smaller tab because it’s not enough coverage for your bare skin another thing to keep in mind this is not so much for most tabs, but some tabs like the Fivics Saker the size of the palm plate will also vary depending on your hand side so you may have to judge using this part of the tab more so than this part but depends on what you’re using Two questions from Jerry the first question is What is the standard range for an indoor competition 18 metres Second question is what is the average arc above the target at 70 or 90 meters for this question I cant give a good answer because it’s way too vague it just depends on your draw weight higher poundage bows, especially compound bows will have a flatter trajectory it’s still a bit of an arc, but not as big as a recurve bow they tend to go several metres above the target before coming back down but it really depends on your bow you might see some of my videos where I do capture close-ups behind the archer you might see the arrow drop-down otherwise do check out the footage from World Archery they do sometimes show the behind the behind the archer shots where you see the arc of the arrow one of the odd things about footage from these major events is that their mostly captured the action scenes the angle, the three-quarter angle so if I’m shooting that way you’ll see this part only didn’t receive the arrow flying toward the target so it’s usually this angle and then target-cam that’s why it can be misleading to think that it’s quite easy but to actually answer the question are just no real answers, it depends on what you’re using Irfan asks have I used a thumb draw the answer is no it’s only because i don’t have a bow where a thumb draw is appropriate, i shoot barebow recurve and Olympic recurve and they both use mediterranean draw. Would I like to? Yes, eventually if I do get a horse bow especially one day that’s something I would definitely be interesting trying but my current styles of shooting dont really require a thumb draw Theresa asks how big is my club we’re around 30 members we haven’t really exceeded this figure for quite a while, we seem to be floating at our typical sustainable level people come and go all the time for various reasons work life, family, boredom so we don’t seem to have been able to grow past 30, there’s no reason why we can’t, we have the capacity to but 30 is a nice small number it’s cosy enough most of us know each other but it would be nice to grow big and meet more people and lastly our question of the month comes from Mike. How often should I be practicing to keep moving forward The short answer to this is as close to every day as possible that may seem like an implausible suggestion but that’s really what it is and there are several reasons why the first reason is physical conditioning archery requires the use of muscles most people don’t use and if you’re coming to archery as a newbie you probably haven’t developed strength in your back muscles and shoulder muscles to take a load of the shot the more these muscles are developed the more control you have over the shot you may be surprised to see how quickly your physical conditioning deteriorates if you don’t shoot for several days this is perhaps more so with recurve than compound compound archers can probably leave for a bit longer come back and still shoot fairly decently recurve really need to make use of the physical form along with your process in order to maintain that the second reason is that is the mental side a lot of archery is based on sub-conscious action, things like aiming things that drawing the bow back and anchoring and expanding a lot of these become very fine-tuned actions and if we don’t practice frequently enough these things are easily forgotten I mean you’d probably have to experience where you might be shooting really well for an entire day, a everything is sweet You’re not feeling tired your shoulders are level you’re expanding nicely, your shots are grouping really well and then the next week you just can’t remember what you did and that’s part of the problem of not practicing frequently enough you forget that like you know anything that would cause of practice playing piano for example i’ve been playing piano for nearly a year now and the songs which i’ve memorize and can play off by heart I can’t play any more and I need to maintain that the fluency the dexterity I can’t maintain that same standard where you actually do it anymore without frequent practice and the same with archery, you leave it for a while well you might think oh yeah, i’ll come back I’ll be okay you have to relearn the things you’ve forgotten and these are things which is so subtle that if we don’t maintain it they will drop they will fade and you won’t shoot anywhere near as good this is perhaps my main fault with most new arches it’s that lack of commitment now I mean right here i’m doing this Q&A waiting for someone to turn up in around an hours time because he wants to train evenings and nights and that’s the sort of commitment you need. you have to be willing to train after hours and the most of us are working, have families and can’t really do that me included, I’ve got things to do you like things to mark i’m a teacher after all but the more excuses you make to not shoot the more you will fall behind. In comparison again most people at my club will shoot perhaps once a week if not that but so once a week you might be an hour or two hours a week knowing your enough that is not enough to maintain form let alone try to progress progression means shooting frequently enough so that you grow and you go through the highs and the lows the more you shoot the sooner you come across the problems which everyone will face just the sooner you’ll come across form breakdowns the sooner you’ll come across the frustrations and anxieties that plague all archers you may find one minute you’re not releasing well or you can’t expand or something’s gone wrong and the more you shoot the sooner you come across these things and the more you know I have to fix these if you just leave it like for once a week or barely that then you you won’t reach the point where these become problems you’ll be mediocre for as long as you shoot that’s a hard way of saying this but that’s probably what in my opinion if you only maintain that once a week routine then you’re stuck in that mediocre mindset, that’s what it is it’s not an attack on new archers or people who can’t commit it’s just my commentary on the fact that if you actually want to be better if you want to become good hunter if you want to become a competitive shooter then you have to make the time to shoot so that’s what I think, i do say as close to every day as possible this may not be possible but you have to really if you want to progress you have to seriously set time aside to shoot you to find every opportunity you can to get some practice in. Any way that ends this Q&A as usual if you have any questions post on my Facebook page, through messages through emails or this youtube comment below this new sensei thanks for watching guys and I’ll see you next time

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  1. As always, many thanks for producing these awesome videos! I'm shooting once a week right now, and you're right… I seem to start afresh every week… so I have a choice; stay mediocre, or create more time to shoot… 🙂

    ps. Did the bird get out?

  2. I have a question for next months q&a, I would like to start an archery range. I do live in america, I'm sure Australia has different regulations; but how do I get started?

  3. Thank you so much for addressing my question, your explanation was absolutely perfect. Well thought out and organized, I will for sure set aside time to make sure I'm practicing and working toward goals.

  4. Hey man, thanks for making another great video; I've been watching them for a while, and they never disappoint!
    Quick question – I shoot a full competition recurve setup for my university team, and I recently moved up to a 70-40# draw. A couple of weeks down, and my groupings are getting tighter and starting to get close to where I was before moving. However, despite changing my brace height to its maximum to get the string away from the limb tips, the bow is still a lot louder than it used to be, and at a friendly competition with another local uni, it sounded like it might crack at any minute! The looks I got from the other team's archers whenever I released were slightly worrying!

    Our head coach agrees with me that getting a top bolt to assist with damping would help, but I was wondering if there would be any merit in getting a second bolt to insert to the bottom screw hole on my riser, or would that not add enough damping to make the investment worth while?

    While browsing around for which bolt to get, and where from, I came across these:
    http://www.merlinarchery.co.uk/flex-archery-v-flex-dampener-1-pair.html
    Have you ever had any experience with these, or know anyone who has? I'm considering these in conjunction with a top rod (& possibly a bottom one!), and any insights you have would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks, and I look forward to the next video!

  5. Question regarding arrow trajectory, check out the 2012 London Olympics, they sometimes have a "kill cam" tracking the arrow flight all the way to the target. especially the one Khatuna Lorig struck pinhole camera on the target.
    https://youtu.be/7EE9d3HS4BE?t=32s
    Oddly enough 2016 Rio Olympics did not have these kind of camera angle. 🙁

    Archery applications like archer's advantage calculate arrow trajectory, however they are intended for compound bow. I plug my recurve bow set-up into AA anyway, it shows 244 inches (6.2metres) of arrow drop with a 201fps arrow. Seems legit.

  6. For future reference compound shooters can go for months and shoot just a little under par if any at all, IMO there is so much mechanical advantage, like let off, release aids, a draw length that is impossible to get worng unless physically changed by using different modules, what gives a compound its draw cycle, let off, and valley, the length between peak weight and let off

  7. good advice thanks im a comp pool player and alot of what you say is true, we have a lot in common, taking my relaxed but focused form into a comp is my next challenge, i don't suppose you can have a pint of beer to relax when your in
    control of a weapon !!!! snipers take beta blocker drugs to keep calm, would that be allowed at your club???

  8. Grips are not interchangable. At least not between SF and Win Win. Nephew shoots Win Win, and bought a grip he didnt like, but I found quite nice but due to the screw holes that mount it to the rise being in a different position, I couldnt use (I use SF). That's a limited sample size, but they arent interchangable for those two brands at least. Keep up the great videos.

  9. Hi Nu, when you're using the sight, where do you focus? Target, pin or string? I find I focus on the target but string is too fuzzy and wide in my vision.

  10. I've noticed that, regardless of whether the distance is 10-18meters or 70-90meters, I see target archers always keeping their shoulder alignment parallel to the ground. This leads me to believe that, instead of moving the entire upper body to adjust for distance like how traditional archers shoot, target archers are only moving their bow arm. Won't that lead to inconsistencies in anchor points and/or clicker distance if a target archer hypothetically shot alternately between short and long distances on the same round?

  11. Grips are not always interchangeable, there is no standard. However, sometimes you can make another grip work on your bow, even if it doesn't fit in it's factory form. You just need some basic crafting skills. It is really worth trying around different grip styles and grip heights. In my opinion, different tabs make a much bigger impact on your shooting form and grouping than shooting different tabs. There are also some nice aftermarket grip producers worth checking out, like Jager Grips.

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