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Archery | Using the Sight

August 15, 2019

[Shhhthunk] Hey guys this is NUSensei If you are getting into archery, and you’re looking at the freestyle or Olympic style recurve then you will have to get familiar with
this. This is the sight, and it’s the defining
feature of your classification. Now using the sight may seem very obvious, but you will come across many questions which you never thought you had. Firstly let’s go through the parts of
the sight. The one I’m using is a Shibuya Ultima which
is the very top end of recurve sights, although all sights share common features and
functions. The sight consists of a long horizontal bar attached to a vertical
bar that typically has the sight markings and a removable sight block. The sight block has an aperture. Normally it looks like a plain iron sight with the red contrasting dot painted on. I’ve actually replaced mine with a larger
aftermarket aperture, in this case the Titan Scope. It’s important to note that rules for
recurve shooters forbid the use of magnified lenses so this is just a plain
zero power piece of glass. The sight block has methods to change its elevation and windage. The exact method depends on the model. Some use micro
adjustable wheels, others require loosening screws and turning by hand. The sight is mounted onto this block, which must first be screwed onto the riser. The bar is inserted into this block and
secured by a large screw. Now the most common question I get
about using the sight is: “How far do I set the bar?” Basically, the closer the sight the bigger the adjustments are. This is because the site is closer to
your eye so each adjustment will have a bigger effect on target. If you move the site further out,
adjustments will be finer due to the increased gap. This allows for more precise adjustments
especially when shooting at long-range targets. This vertical bar can also be adjusted. Most sights have it screwed on from behind so removing these screws will allow you to move the entire bar up or down. This is useful if you need sight settings
for close distances or very long distances. There is one side effect to adjusting
your sight distance. The closer it is the larger the sight
will be in front of your eye. This is usually not a factor when deciding how
far to place it, but it may be worth noting that, at certain distances, the sight may
obstruct the target. Generally speaking, most archers will prefer to keep their sight further out. This is because, especially at longer distances, even the most minute of adjustments will make a big difference on target. So having the sight further out will
give the archer more control over their micro adjustments. Of course you can set which ever notch you want, and you may find that you have different
sight settings for different distances at different notches. It’s essential that you record your sight
setting and your notch setting so that you have the same reference point each time. Speaking of sight settings, what you will find on your vertical bar are numerical references. This is what you write down for your sight settings. Now these numbers don’t actually
refer to specific distances. They’re simply arbitrary units for you to
write that when you do get out and do your sight setting. So for example, at 30 meters you might be shooting 1.5, at 50 meters it might be a 3.0, and so on. Alternatively some archers prefer to print
out or write out a sight tape which they stick onto the sight bar which indicates
which level is which distance. By the way, do remember that your
sight is directly over the arrow. If you do set the sight too low you can shoot it off. I have seen it happen. Now that we’ve covered how the sight works let’s talk about how to actually use one. The most important thing to keep in mind is that the sight
should not be the focal point. You should be looking at the target, and the sight
should be a blur. This gives you an overlay and a
reference point. The second reference you need is your
string. You should see the string somewhere in the side of your vision. This forms a rear sight allowing you to
align it with the site ring. This specific spot varies between archers. Some archers keep it to the side of the ring, others align it with the inside of the riser. Most importantly the sight picture must
be consistent. So basically, don’t treat the sight like a telescopic sight you’re aiming through. It’s only a reference point, and you have to
remember that to get the arrow on target you need to focus on the rest of the
shot process. One important thing to remember for beginners, is that you have to adjust based on your groupings and not an individual arrow. Now you might see at a professional level that archers will make really fine adjustments every single shot. This
is because they’re trained to the point where their form is perfectly consistent. So they know they are doing the right thing which means that sight adjustment means something. If you’re beginning and you make adjustments every single arrow you’re not actually understanding what
causes the arrow to go off. It isn’t always the sight that is wrong,
and most of the time it’s you. So, as a beginner, practicing, use the
groupings as an indicator, but don’t adjust for single arrows. Focus on getting your form right, and the arrows will start coming into place, and only then will sight adjustments mean something. There’s one more thing you should remember about using the sight. It’s “follow the arrow.” This rule is used
to remind you of how to adjust your sight in order to get your arrows on target. In this example, all my arrows are going
too low. To compensate for this I need to move my sight down. This will cause me to lift my bow
higher. If my shots are too high I put my sight up, which brings my bow
down. If my arrows are to the left I wind my sight to the left and vice
versa for the right. In this demonstration I’m going to shoot
three arrows to establish my grouping and adjust my sight from there. Here I can see that my grouping is
slightly high. By following the rule of chasing the arrow I need to move my sight up. I will now shoot another set of arrows. I’m in the center, however, my elevation is still a little
low, so i’m going to make one more micro adjustment. Now my grouping is dead center. Even at very short distances small
adjustments make a difference. Now it’s one thing to get your sights on
target for close practice distance, however, if you are shooting at long
distance competitions. you will need to know how to sight your
bow at different ranges. For this we need to do a walk back. To do this properly and efficiently,
start at a distance that you know you are able to hit the target from. I’m
going to start at 20 meters and shoot a group. I currently don’t have a target pinned up, but I am aiming at this cardboard piece, and my arrows are pretty
much on target. I now need to take note of my sight
position and record it on a notepad or on my phone. With that done I can now step back to 30
meters. I estimate my sight drop and make the
alteration and shoot a group. This time it’s a little too high and a bit to the right. My adjustment is to lift the sight and
move the sight to the right. Now I’ll shoot another group to verify my settings. I made one bad shot but the others are
on target, so this is good enough. I then walk back to each successive
distance: 40 meters, 50 meters, 60 meters. Even 70 if I have to. That way I have accurate sight settings
for all the distances I will need to shoot. Once you get your sight settings down you have something to work with. Now
these sight settings won’t be perfect. Things will change. Maybe the weather
conditions will be different on the day. It might be warmer, therefore air rises,
therefore the arrows will carry further. Maybe there’s more cross wind. Whatever
the case you have something to base your sight settings on rather than going in
blind. There are a couple of tips that I have
using the sight. First is you need to have confidence in
your sight. If you’re not sure where your sight is pointing, and you have to aim off all the time then
it kind of defeats the purpose of having a sight. Measure your sight settings as accurate as possible and make meaningful adjustments. Secondly, don’t become too fixated on the
sight. The site is only a reference point, and
you may start developing target panic because you become too obsessed with
getting the sight on target. Don’t forget the rest of the shot process. Where to aim, and how to get it there, are
different things, and if you’re not shooting well then it doesn’t really
matter where you aim. Anyway I hope this video was helpful.
Thank you for watching. This is NUSensei, and i’ll see you next time.

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  1. Hey Sensei, I've got a question in regards to my alignment about looking through site and the position of my string, I was told by my coach that I should keep the string aligned always the same no matter where it is, I align my string to be to the right of my riser, is that correct or not?

  2. Another awesome video….thanks!!!
    i just got into archery and been learning alot with all of your videos.

  3. I was waiting for this video. I am a beginner and so is my brother. We were shooting last week and I put my very basic sight onto the bow and it was far to close to the arrow. He took one shot and the sight broke. It was just a very basic plastic sight but it is in the bin now. lol

  4. Hello Nu Sensei, I have a question regarding focusing on the sight. I can't see the sight pin nor string when shooting 70m if I focus on the target when going through the whole shot process. If I focus on the sight all the time and only when I'm ready to release, I focus on the target, then I can see the blurred sight. it is either this, or closing my non dominant eye ( which I dont like nor it feels right to me ). Where should your eye focus be on every part of the shot process? I've heard you should check the clicker visually. Can you make a video about eye focus while performing the shot process? what is your opinion on this matter? Thank you

  5. I think technically you should not have to make any (or minimal) horizontal adjustments for different distances if a bow is tuned right.

  6. Hey Nu, I've been watching a lot of your videos and I'm kinda getting interested target archery whereas I originally wanted to get into traditional archery. I'm currently using a kind of regular hunting (bare)bow. If I'm going to switch to target archery I'll have to get new gear, but this bow will do for a while, until I can get new gear, right? It should be the same except maybe anchor point regarding technique, so training with my current bow should be fine. But maybe you have some tips on stuff I need to keep an eye and get for target archery?

  7. NUSensei i need a help.When i aim with the arrow i see that its "touching" the center of a target.But when i fire it the arro flyies like way higher can you help me?

  8. why do you have to adjust the left/right alignment of the sight for different distances ? if the bow and arrows are correctly tuned to each other wouldn't the arrows fly straight down the line without the need for lateral adjustment ?

  9. I have my sight aligned with my string and i anyone pick up my bow they can hit the centre.
    As you said, if you arn't shooting consistently adjusting is pointless.
    I have never changed my sight since I brought the bow but it show how inconsistent my aiming is.

  10. Yeah I didn't do that to get my 70m setting… I was dumb and went right out to 70 (with new limbs and arrows) estimated my sight drop and lost an arrow. Went down and picked up two half of my ACE then adjusted my sight again and got on target. But that was about a $40 sight setting.

  11. you're amazing my main man NUSensei, keep the good work up! love whatching your vids and getting a prespective from a Recurve bow shooter as i shoote compound!:D

  12. Hi, First Thanks for the information about archery. All video's are great and helpful. I was wondering where did you buy you glass aperture, please.
    thanks and all the best.

  13. Eww, the AUDIO levels keep deviating. Most unpleasant; most distracting. How can I attentively listen to the subject matter without being distracted throughout!
    This Instructional video's sound is not up to NUSensei's normal standard.

  14. Newby, been shooting for only 2 weeks. Your videos are great with clear, easy to understand explanations, learnt somuch from them, thank you very much!

  15. can you upgrade this video with subtitle please? acuracy is the most important part of archery and I want to learn how to increase acuracy from your video 😊

  16. hi , i am looking for shibuya CPX 520 carbon , but i don´t know what length i need to buy ,I just only need to shoot at 70m
    How long do you recommend? , 6" or 9" Thx for your great video

  17. I love the tiny little first aid kit on the shelf – not exactly what you need when you've got an arrow stuck in the rear end…

  18. Thanks for all the good advice on your videos. This one was very helpful on sight picture and string position. keep them coming. JD.

  19. Dude, you are awesome. I just purchased my first takedown recurve bow and accessories and I wouldnt have felt confident to do so without your videos. Unfortunately I did not order a sight, but I think I will now after seeing this. Your videos are very articulate with enough details without rambling on one point too long. Thank you for taking the time to do this. You should really monetize your account. Most videos arent worth waiting through ads, but yours are and you should be compensated for them.

  20. I love that you show your "failed" shots. Its pretty discouraging to watch people hitting target each and every time, and it feels good to see a trained individual such as yourself still having "bad shots".

  21. I just picked up a SF Velocity Pro the other day and I'm trying to get into the swing of adjusting it. At home while I practice using it, I'm having trouble figuring out the left/right adjustments. I see you making an adjustment at 8:51 to chase the arrow to the right, but it's hard to tell in what direction you are turning the tuning knob. Since you have your bow on your stand, and laying horizontal, are you turning it towards the lower end of the bow, effectively to the right? As in, if you were to make the adjustment while standing – Downward turn is right, and upward is left?

    I'm not sure if I notice a visual change in the sight when I turn the knob. My sight didn't come with any instructions so I'm unsure if I'm actually making changes or if I'm doing something wrong. I'm aware of issues with form and consistency so I only try to make adjustments once I've made a decent grouping.

  22. Now I relise I need to change my sight.. T^T now I'm crying 3 years play didnt relise they had screw behind that can change position.. I feel dumb right now.. Thanks for the video.. its very informative..

  23. Great, concise video. I am a beginner, just got my gear. I watched many of your videos to know what gear to buy and to even understand what the different parts are called (and if they are truly necessary or optional). Even my sight came with zero instructions, so it was great help to watch this to know where to mount it and then how to use it. Thank you for your hard work putting these videos up. I appreciate them

  24. quick questions
    about this though. if i have my sight close then move it farther out will i still get the same results and then just micro adjust my sight? ive mine set out as far as possible lol.. what about the placement of the vertical bar? why move it up or down? which one is close or long distance? can i just find one sweet spot for it all? i havent changed it from the middle bolts works for what im working with… why would i need to change it? are they kinda imagining youre shooting 300-500 yd targets? who does that ??!?! lol

  25. so one quick question a sight is a sight right? whats the difference from your shibuya to like my krossen scorpion? already established once you get your horizontal bar set and pretty good to go. so its just vertical after that..

    but isnt a sight just a sight?

  26. thanks Sensei, i want more consistency at longer ranges i am trying a sight for the first time and wanted to know how to use one. when i did a search on recurve sights guess what? you popped up. every time i want to learn something about archery you are the man to watch. easy instructions and tips to follow.

  27. NU sensai s message has 2 most important keys
    1. follow the arrow 6:43
    2. if you are not shooting well then it does not matter where you aim 10:39
    Thank you very much. Very helpfull for me!!

  28. Shooted for 3 years, still find ur videos are very useful!
    My girlfriend started to shoot this month, and your archey videos helped a lot.
    THX 🙂

  29. Great Video as always. I have watched and re-referenced many
    of them since i have been coaching and found them very helpful. One additional valuable
    point which you could add on this vid, is why you might need to bring the sight
    closer to the riser – when aiming at more distant targets and you have run out
    of downward adjustment.
    Thanks, Rick

  30. Hello NUSensei. you sir are the Definite go to for help Re: recurve target bows. Please don't laugh.. I've got a Timber/Creek Stalker recurve bow 54" at 45lbs on it I've put a KROSSEN Scorpion/Sight the Front Screw/SG01-18 Please excuse my ignorance Do I slacken it To adjust the So say Micro-adjust Windage. It seems When I Loosen it all it Does is Loosen the Sight pin and i can Screw Back and forth With my fingers. the Micro- adjust Doesn't seem to Do nothing?

  31. Does anyone know a good recurve that youth can use? I want something at about 20 pound draw weight and somewhere around 100 to 150 dollars. If this helps I am an intermediate archer with a compound bow and somewhat good with barebow recurves

  32. Great vid, thankyou. I have a head scratcher for experienced archers or better yet any coaches out there:

    I'm left handed, left eye dominant. When I started shooting I just picked up a cheap fibreglass bow (now shooting a flatbow, looking to move into recurve) the basic instructions that came with the bow showed a right handed archer & the tab that came with the kit was a right handed one. Being totally green & not having a sight on it, I didn't appreciate the importance handedness & eye dominance. So I learned to shoot right handed now a few years down the line & getting serious about archery, and as mentioned making the leap into recurve (driving down to Merlin Archery wednesday to pick one up! whoop whoop); I'm unsure whether to stick with what I know or to be clumsy again & make the switch to left handed gear?

    Shooting my flatbow I have to close my left eye to sight down the string & arrow tip, I've been wondering how will this affect the use of a sight? Don't recurve coaches insist that you shoot with both eyes open? To complicate matters further my right eye is lazy (amblyopia) & opticians I've seen have remarked that my eyes work independently of one another (no, I don't use them like a chameleon lol) when gauging distance. I said to the optician well how come I'm not knocking things over & missing things I grab for? She said my brain has developed compensation methods over the years to gauge distance.

    Now obviously I'm going to ask the guys/gals at merlin for their input on the matter but I'm keen to get as many opinions as I can, so would be really really grateful for anyone else's opinion on it! Many thanks!

  33. New to archery…when I started shooting, the instructor(he's so intimidating and Im not good with people) said I have to point the sight at the yellow circle to actually hit the yellow circle and it goes down outside the the target paper when I released the arrow…it happens so often that I ignore the sight and focus on what you've teach on the beginners video and I hit the yellow circle…haha…I also feel uncomfortable using sight

  34. I've been shooting traditional barebow for 6 months or so, and I've just picked up a sight to fit to one of my bows. Thanks for making such a comprehensive video with everything I need to know to get it fitted, adjusted and set up all in one clear video – as always, great work! Thanks!

  35. Please a little help on how to aim… which side of the string should we aim from…? I aim from the right side of the string between the string and raiser and if from the left side of the string, as you have shown in this video, how to do it while keeping the string in centre of the raiser…???

  36. Thank you for the video Nu sensei, it's quite helpful. Would you mind if I share your videos to another website for the people in mainland China?

  37. I don't shoot recurves (although I am thinking of trying it). I use modern compound hunting bows with a release. However I still find your videos very good and informative. Keep up the good work and thank you.

  38. Quandary? I have dropped my sight to nearly the dead bottom of elevation at ten yards. I haven't tried different anchor points but I assume that is probably the only way to get some of that elevation back? It is a Sureloc sight and I was shooting 3 under at the time. I have a pretty massive aperture on it at the moment I suppose it could be part of the problem as well? I just set it up tonight and my groups shrank from basketball at 10 yards to a tangerine at 20 (though about a foot and a half low) by adding a sight, HUGE fan.

  39. I hope i dont need to get anything spandex like for my endevours whit my bow. Nu sensei looks fine, but i dont have the confidence. 😀

  40. How to see the alignment of sight pin and target from the left side of the string or right side?? I am right handed person & right eye is dominant. Please drop the reply or make a video to demonstrate the same. Thank you 🙂

  41. This is the best / simplest explanation of using a recurve sight I've seen. Love your videos and they have helped so much in my early/newbie stages of getting to grips with a recurve bow.

  42. I have a question when you adjust the weight of the sight do you count on the upper part of the sight block or the lower part

  43. Hay, just want to thank you for your videos, I've just started getting into archery and your videos are a great help .

  44. I shoot recurve but at my local archery club everybody uses traditional so they tell me that I am now allowed to use a sight because its cheating and demoralizes the other shooters. I pay nearly 300 dollars for access to the club.

  45. Well done for giving me common sense instructions on the sight block. I have an Avalon Tec one and had my sight block about 3/4 towards to firing end of the riser. I never thought of the fact the further out the sight block is, the smaller the adjustments become. I'll test this in my archery session tonight at the club. Thanks!

  46. very good movie … I also think it is better to learn without a sight … our reference point may well be the arrowhead … we get too low, let's raise the arrowhead slightly and it will be ok…
    Tomorrow I receive my first bow and I start to learn to shoot … greetings from Poland👍💪🏹🏹🏹🏹🏹

  47. May ask some question my sight are way too low for me (3 clicks a way from the bottom ) I have an accurate shot but when I see most of the archers are in the middle or almost on top. Do I have to adjust my nock point down a little to compensate for the sight? or Just let it be as long as I am consistent at my shot?

  48. Okay, I’m a beginner and my coach tells me the sight and hitting the middle is not important now, but what is important is the way and style you release, but when I used the sight, the arrow flew over and almost hit the street, thanks to some of my fellow archery mates they found the arrow 30 minutes later hahahahah 🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤦‍♀️

  49. I have got a question for you
    The bow sight is mounted at a height above the arrow and if the bow sight is parallel to the arrow when you are sighting the target you are viewing the target at a height above the arrow right
    Then how the arrow will hit the target if the arrow is not pointing to the target and only the sight does ? The only way it is possible if the line of sight and the arrow Head converges at the target ?it does somehow and I want to know how any help would be benefial hope you can help

  50. I align the string with the sight and the target. Because I draw my hand not into the mouth corner but under my jaw bone. So shouldn't adjust the sight laterally when I change shooting distance..

  51. There is something wrong with me when my arrow are little to the left I have to adjust my sight to the right or else it will more on the left again.

  52. 4:50 – You talked briefly about where to line up the string in relation to the sight housing or riser. Is it wrong of me to (right handed shooter) line the string up with the left side of the sight housing? It is what came naturally to me but I can't seem to find anyone saying to line it up on the left side of the sight.

  53. Hi Nu Sensei, am a beginner at 51 and have watched almost all of your videos (except product reviews) on archery. They're awesome and most helpful for me. Thank you so much.

    I have a question. I have slight astigmatism (cyclindrical error) in my shooting eye (right eye) and wear bifocals including a correction for astigmatism.However, I dont use my glasses while am shooting as am uncomfortable wearing it then. Any suggestions on how one can deal with this challenge while aiming?

  54. Now I see why you hate junk bows. Power is nothing if you can not aim and hit the target consistently.

  55. Please do a vlog about how to aim with in a bow to easy to recognized how high or low based on its distance thank you😆 (have a camera in a bow)

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