Archery Annoyances #12 – Archer Rage
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Archery Annoyances #12 – Archer Rage

August 11, 2019


(music playing) Here’s something you can probably all relate to. You turn up at the range, and do your first shots. The arrows are touching. Your release feels good, all is going well. Then you get that one arrow, that doesn’t want to group. You shrug it off, you shoot another round. Then it’s two arrows. Then three arrows. And then your grouping spreads to the entire face. Then you miss. And you miss again. And then your grouping goes back to what it was. Yeah, it’s alright, can’t get any worse. Then you break an arrow. And that’s it, there’s no coming back from that. The session’s over. You pick up your gear and go. Because, the more you shoot, the more arrows you break, the more arrows you lose. And the closer you get to the point of no return. You might be thinking – hang on, that’s a bit dramatic. No, this is actually a thing. There is a point where people essencially rage quit from the sport and never come back. Everyone is affected by this. Pros, beginners, they all have slumps, where nothing seems to feel right. And it can be extremely difficult to overcome these periods. And it is very easy for someone to go down the path of destruction. It’s tough. It’s tough for you as an archer. It’s tough for your coach, because effectively you’ve stopped listening and you’ve lost your focus. Every shot feels bad. Your release feels wrong, you held on too long. You hit yourself. You swear after every shot. Your focus is just totally in the wrong places. The cracks are there and it doesn’t take much for the snap to happen. I’ve seen older women chuck their bows aside and walk off. I’ve seen archers embed their arrows in the target frames. And instead of pulling it out, just snap the carbon shaft in anger. Carbon shafts! It’s terrifying to see people go through this meltdown. The worst thing is that these people don’t come back. They’re just gone, their feeling is gone. Archery is no longer fun, it’s not enjoyable. It’s stressful. They can’t do it. And they may have spent hundreds or thousands even on equipment and membership fees and range fees and all that. And they just leave it, it’s gone. These people just disappear. Once you take few days off, then it’s really hard to come back. They are people, who with some time and effort, and dedication could become accomplished archers and they could find this to be an enjoyable sport. But they walk out. So what do you do? I mean it’s really hard to tell someone: “Hey! Go meditate!” Unfortunately I don’t have an easy way to defuse that growing anger. It really comes down to mental discipline. Not just in shooting well and consistently, but also recognising when you aren’t shooting well. And stopping it before it gets worse. After one bad shot, you’ve got to put it behind you and send the next one into the gold. But if you’re too fragile to focus, or you are getting too twitchy, or you’re oversensitive to pass through your shot process. Stop shooting! Go closer to the target and so some blind bale shooting. Just close your eyes and get a feel for the shot. Just do that. Forget your distractions. Just do that. Focus on the correct motion. And get the feeling back. Once you’ve done it a few times, open your eyes, and do it. Remind yourself the same feeling. Nothing different. You’re at a range where you can’t miss a target, you’re right up close. Just do it until you get the motion correct. Once that’s settled, go back to your practice range. If you still can’t get it right, you still can’t settle, go back up close and do it again. It’s essential that you begin and end the training session with some blind bale shooting so that you start and end with the right feeling. Starting out cold and finishing poorly is how you go down the slope to chronic form problems, and ultimately rage. So the question for today is – What are your stories on archer rage? And how have you dealt with that impending sense of frustration? This is NU Sensei bringing you another archery annoyance.

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  1. Had this problem a couple days ago; went from great groups, to garbage groups, to loosing arrows in the grass. I literally had to cool off for a day before going back.

  2. I experienced a period where I couldn't help but punch the trigger. I got over it by doing some blind bale shooting.

  3. I always remind myself not to stress when playing any sport as the reason why I began was because it was fun. The more we develop our skills, the higher expectations we have for ourselves but never forget http://youtu.be/c5e7gdxkgE8

  4. I was pretty frustrated when I went through a bad stretch of target panic, but I never was ready to quit archery because I always remembered how much fun it used to be. 
    Eventually worked through it with a hinge release & blind bale shooting and now I'm shooting better than ever and have more fun than ever.

  5. I'm struggling with target panic since years and haven't raged once. Btw. maybe you want to do a video on target panic?

  6. Personally I believe you shouldn´t stop shooting after an arrow is breacked by rage. Sure anyone has a bad shot somtimes that breaks an arrow, but rage is different. I´ve discover that when this hits me the best thing i can do is go to 10mt and let the rage and everything to wash away in the target. and then as i feel better start on sooting longer distances. Best regards

  7. A great tecnique that i developed when im frustrated is to get all "Legolas on a target", i get to close distance (separated from the rest of the archers), lots of arrows, and just rapidfiring them all… its actually relaxing and entertaining and sometimes i end up amazed by the groupings i made with no tecnique what so ever, so once im cool… i reset… do some stretch band excercises and im back in the game Got to get my cool back

  8. “You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend.”

  9. I think your passing suggestion, "go meditate" is really the answer.  During meditation, you return to your focus and center and therein resides all accomplishments and avenues to achievement.

  10. It is good end any hobby session when it stops being fun, before it stops being one's hobby. I wish I didn't have to go to the range–I always feel rushed to utilize the time. It would be nice to have a back yard outside of the city limits and a target.

  11. I have been an archer for 26 years 6 years learning and was just to young to understand the mental side, and about 20 years competitive. I have never damaged my gear in rage. How ever I have damaged bows taking short cuts in pressing bows and things like that. I feel blank bale is the answer  for some archers, for my self it does nothing as the problem is only there when the target spot is there, So I mostly practice on geting the shot correct with the target up and somtimes with a clear lens. If you can get throw the shot correcty on the target (forced) If I keep at that my form will come together sooner then later. I feel being trained to do this makes my scores more consistant.

  12. have been shooting bow for alost a year. BUT I've played guitar for a little over 30 years. & the same thing happens on the guitar (minus the shooting & breaking arrows). this, I think, sorts the wheat from the chaff. if it's in your soul, you'll persevere (with much spitting & cursing – I've had my guitar by the neck ready to smash it to kindling against the wall more times than I can count. am sure i'll get to the same stage with the bow at some point). those with no real intent, need, drive to push through will fall away. those who are determined & have the patience & drive to overcome, shall. another form of Evolution?
    I've yet to be truly tested in fire on the bow. though as the last time my soul sang to me as it does with the bow was with the guitar, I have hopes that I can knuckle down & work through the inevitable shit that comes with learning.

  13. For melt wasn't really rage, I just lost interest after 6 months. I know people might think this is just soooo silly but… I went and watched a hunger games movie, it reminded me of why I started archery. It got me refocused in many things I do.

  14. Hey great video about getting up close and closing your eyes and concentrate on form and what not. I had a great video of me launching an arrow up again a canyon cliff. It really felt great chucking an arrow 100 yds to no where

  15. I try to remember that I am using a bent stick to fire pointed sticks at a shaped bale of straw and that's what I enjoy.  Getting a good score is a bonus.  Yes I want to improve. yes I like to win when it's competition but it's still something I want to enjoy.  (You can tell I'm not really a target archer can't you!)

  16. Yes, I am very guilty of this, besides the rage quitting though. If I am doing bad I just keep shooting even longer doing worse and worse, my heart rate goes up, blood is boiling, I start prematurely releasing (and I already don't hold long as it is). I tend to do worse when shooting around others, most of my archery is done at home when alone. If I try to shoot on camera you can forget it, I managed to do a video where I did okay but I had to zoom the camera so you could only see the target and not me.

    Thank you for the advice shooting with my eyes closed up close to the target, I am going to try this if I am having another bad day.

  17. I used to hate your vids but today I just power-watched about 15 of them and took away a lot of information and was thoroughly entertained. So you got a subscriber today. Good job on the vids and Thanks for posting them.

  18. When I was raged, I just rage quit and sit back watching more professional people shoot. I try to get that competitive feeling back and once I got them, I grab the bow and start shooting back.

  19. I cannot understand the rage ,I shoot…normally alone,…at the foothills of mount kiera in the incredibly beautiful Illawarra …mine is just an experience with me

  20. Usually I buy a new bow that requires a new technique.

    Up to now I'm shooting:
    olympic recurve
    horsebow with thumb ring Korean style
    horsebow with thumb ring Ottoman style
    traditional long bow
    hunting recurve
    barebow wih stringwalking

  21. I've had some issues this summer. I did not have correct arrows. They were too long, too stiff and too heavy, and I could not use a clicker. I struggled with the anger you described more or less every day, seen as the results were shit and my form became worse and worse since I was shooting without the clicker.
    Somehow I managed to use that anger as a motivation to continue shooting. I told myself that "It will go over. I will get new arrows soon, and I will figure out my problems."
    I think I might have some anger issues after practicing every day and constantly wanting to punch myself in the face, but I survived. I think my biggest fear is that I one day want to quit archery. The thought of it makes my palms sweat.

  22. My uncial sliced a golf ball into a goose. The goose immediately attacked the nearest old man, and that was the last time he ever played golf.

  23. I've been close to walking away. Shooting at competitions, watching the other people scoring great scores, watching me struggling to hit the target. Then i stop myself and say "You've been shooting for 1 year, they've been shooting for 20, do you really think you'll keep up? Just improve YOUR score" and that seemed to work, just work on hitting the target where i want to, the score will improve itself.

    My coach is pretty good though i have to admit, he points out, and continues to, that EVERYONE has off days. I've now been shooting for a couple years, loving it, but sometimes during a practice night, or what have you, things just stop working, i can't find the right anchor point, etc etc. Then i just accept that tonight isn't my night, and usually stop shooting to enjoy watching others shoot. Have a yap to someone about their new gear (obviously not when they're trying to shoot haha) and perhaps browse through things i might need for my own rapidly expanding collection of archery equipment.

  24. I shoot maybe 3 times a week, and it happens to me at least once … a week. I'll just shoot not as well as I know I can, and it'll get frustrating and I just quit for the day. If it was a particularly bad session (missing the whole target multiple times at 10 yards) I'll take a few days off.

  25. Well for me. This actually happened today. I placed good shots on the target into deacent grouping and all of a sudden one shot went one meter high from the target and hitted a wooden plank wall on the range. Arrows where mine and the bow was mine, the mistake was totally mine. Coatch did not know what happened, i did not know what happened. But there was no rage. i laughed at it, even the arrow was broken. I left it behind, thinked about my body movements and tried again. Coatch left out couple of swear words bechause he got supriced out of no where. But atleast i as shooter kept my calm and still wanted to keep on going as i choosed to continue my passion ^^ Point of the story, rage did not happen, even the enviroment allowed it. And today i broke two arrows but at the end of the day, i fixed them and continued my day 😀 Thats why there is spare parts. But now im out of nocks and thats a bummer. Time to find fiitting nocks then 😀

  26. I'm completely new to archery but I lift and the sports are similar in that they are individual sports and results are very easily quantifiable. With lifting I track all my workouts and track of my max lifts over time, with archery I'd imagine it would be very easy to keep track of average accuracy, number of misses etc over time.

    All lifters have off days, sometimes we have off weeks. Sometimes we get ill and it takes a month or more just to get back to where we were!

    Sometimes you can't anywhere near what you should be able to and on those days It's tough but you needed to check your ego and go light until you're ready (in archery go short range).

    Improvements happen very gradually so sometimes it feels like we're getting nowhere. You have to realise that everyone has peaks and troughs in performance and that it's the long game which matters. If you can't perform like you could a month ago look back at what you were doing 6 months ago and see how far you've come. If the problem persists keep calm and try to analyse what you're doing wrong and come up with a plan to improve.

  27. i'm currently in a slump. my shoulders were damaged for a while, i broke three arrows in three days because i missed the bale completely and slammed into the concrete wall, my form feels off, i have two groupings, one really tight and another kind of sparse, but i have trouble figuring out what makes the arrows go to which group. it's high time into indoor season and so i just don't worry too much, and figure i will fix it after the upcoming tournament but it's worrisome. sometimes i say "F— why did that happen" or "damn what did i do wrong" luckily i can kind of attribute it to not being able to shoot over winter break and for being out for most of the summer. but what would happen after tournament i wonder? i probably wont walk away but i want to fix this and i yet do not know how how.

  28. I didn't deal with it. The same thing happened in skeet shooting, funnily enough; self-proclaimed experts trying to relearn the newcomers (often contrary to previous lessons from actual professionals) and ultimately putting them off the sport. Even going through your videos makes me want to dust it off and set up the old range I used to have here at home.

  29. Although not a rage quit did have a minor phsychological hiccup after an injury where i couldnt aim the bow on the target. Didnt matter if i was 70m away or 5 m away i could not aim at it and as much as i tried i could not lower the bow down. It took the coach a half hour of me blind firing at a target from 1.5 m away to get over it.

  30. This is an interesting subject. I actually took up archery decades ago as a form of anger management therapy. I would show up at the range with my blood boiling and use the discipline of archery to find my inner calm. I knew that I could not shoot well fueled by rage an emotion. SO, I would force myself to calm down, breath, focus….draw, aim, release. rinse and repeat until I was calm and had found my center. I found over time, the more I did this, not only did my skill as an archer increase by shear force of will and tireless practice on the discipline (which left me with very good form and mechanics and a deep understanding on the hows and whys of all things archery related), but it also had the side effect of helping to find my calm center even when I wasn't on the range. Archery is about repetition and focus. It's not an adrenaline and emotion fueled sport or activity. My addendum to your commentary on this subject would be simply this. If you find your self frustrated and you emotions getting the better of you, take a moment to focus on what is going wrong with your mechanics and form, and really focus on that and tune out everything else, and BREATHE! draw…aim…release…

  31. The way you describe Archer rage reminds me of playing tennis. A few bad serves or vollies and your in a different head space.

  32. I once rage quit the sport. I was on bad blood with the club, my equipment wasn't enough for me anymore, and then something just snapped, my feet just didn't allow me to go to my club, for a while I didn't even cross the same neighborhood then after a few months, I realised how much I love it how archery is not something I do its who I am and I came back. Its my exam year, my seniour year in high school and I have to take an exam to go to university so I am studying for it and I took a break from olympic and started traditional turkish archery to clear my head. I thought I was a bad archer and I didn't have what it takes and now I see its something a lot of people go through, thanks NuSensei

  33. Ages ago I tried to get into flying model aircraft. On one of my first flights I made a beginner mistake that resulted in a bad crash that destroyed my glider. I was so upset that I never repaired it or bought another one. IOW, that flight was my last one

  34. this happens a lot to me not with archery but with a computer game called osu which relies a lot of muscle memory and for me at least i find that i loose that muscle memory pretty quickly. if i dont play for a day i get significantly worse and if i dont play for a week its almost like im back as a beginner and im still a student so a lot of times i have to day week or more long breaks. and several times after those breaks i feel tempted to quit but as they say once you get into osu you are here to stay and dealing with that has given me a high tolerance of failure in archery and my everyday life

  35. Hi NuSensei, I broke my nylon arrow rest on a night that I was shooting at 440 archery. it broke after I had just shot a 27,28,25,24…it was the highest I had ever shot using the gap technic. I had a completely different type of rest put on to finish the night with a 265 (they didn't have the same style of rest to replace my broken one). when my rest broke I felt like going home. it took about 8 practice arrows to finally hit the target with my new rest. point being….never quit!!

  36. This had happened to me. It felt like falling through a bottomless pit. Rage quit I didn't, but it did make every shot a confusing and painful experience. But I hit the bottom eventually and it's good now.

    In terms of how I plow through that swamp, I just change different things and see if it works. By blind luck and repetition it seems that I have pulled myself out, mostly.

  37. I dealt with my archer rage by shooting at night. I was having problems with my anchor point, so I bought some lighted nocks from a sporting goods store, and shot some ends every night when it didn't matter where the arrow met the target. I had a laser as a point of aim, and eventually I was able to find my anchor point and start getting touching groups. IN THE DARK. Because I couldn't see the target, just a bright green dot. I isolated the anchor point from everything else.

    Also, as somebody who has done instruction for things before, I'm not afraid to walk up and stop somebody mid-action when they start showing frustration. Telling somebody to put their bow down and take a seat for a few minutes isn't something you should be afraid of, and even if I'm not an instructor it's something I've done at ranges to random strangers. Some people just need to be told to cool off. Let them breathe, talk with them for a minute or two, then have them pick up the bow and gently talk them through the whole cycle. "Look at the target, focus on me. Take a nice, deep breath in through your nose, hold it, then start drawing. Let it out nice and slow as you draw, close your eyes, and come to anchor. Take another deep breath. Count to five. Open your eyes, aim, and release. Now close your eyes! Describe how you feel." Doing that with newer people can have a HUGE benefit on their self-esteem. Teach them that as long as they hit the target, it's a good shot, no matter the range.

  38. a club member where I go to once said, "I learn from my misses, not my bullseyes"… that's the philosophy I have taken.
    I'm also a musician, a mistake in music is difficult to ignore, but if you don't, if you linger on that mistake you WILL stumble over yourself and trip the whole piece.

  39. Thanks so much for this video! I have been in this state recently and finally worked through it. I wanted to quit but I am stubborn and refused – plus I have a practice partner and he wouldn't allow me to stay home and not practice. I finally realized I had to go back to basics and find out out where I was getting sloppy. It is easy to get sloppy after a while. I discovered the problem and then my groups were tight again. But it seems best to just stop taking it all so seriously. I found I was spending too much time focussing on minutiae. Sometimes you just have to shoot and not think so much about it.

  40. I just kept shooting till I got my consistency back lol I loved archery too much to even take a day off

  41. you should just be an adult and accept the fact that you will deviate from the baseline of good shots/grouping from time to time. its the law of averages and deviation from the mean baseline. everyone goes through it. so learn when to back off and take a break, get a coffee or just be happy that you got "some" and come back tomorrow. the sun always rises.

  42. When I started my beginner archery sessions I was doing well when one of the coaches then changed what I was doing all that time and I got so confused with all the instruction I almost threw off the towel and I said I need space LOL. I did not go to training the next week I did not even do rubber training for that whole week because I was already getting frustrated with again starting when I already had it set in. I was even planning to just ditch it. Eventually, I reminded myself that three years ago, I saw Park Sung-hyun on TV and that inspired me to start archery. And then due to financial and personal reasons, we had to quit and let it go. And that now, the circumstances are in favor of us pursuing it again. I realized it was a lack of maturity on my part. So I picked myself up, watched Park Sung-hyun videos again and the determination came back. Now I have my own bow, my full stabs and oh my gosh the clicker and oh no, a lot of the things I was doing got changed. But this time I took it as a positive. There was also a time I shoot without target paper for one and a half months because I caught myself "cheating my shots" during my first fun shoot. I told my coach I want to focus on form and not the sight and she was so supportive. My coach also told me stories of students who had it but never came back, and left their HOYT BOWS collecting dust, while poor me had to settle with a second-hand riser. My coach is younger than me but she is like an older sister to me. As an eldest child, I always had that desire to have an older sibling figure and I found it in her. I do not want to disappoint my coach and most of all, I do not want to let this go. I feel at home with my bow and in the range, and this video hits me home. Thanks for this!

  43. I don't rage much in archery, mainly cause I try to learn from my mistakes. I make a bad shot, "oh, yeah, my back feels a bit more tense. Probably held it too long." If I make a second bad shot and it's the same mistake, I take a break, or sometimes even call the day off and come back another weekend.

  44. I oddly don't get frustrated with any form of marksmanship and generally, regardless of how poorly I'm shooting, still find it relaxing vs my normal stressors.

    Not archery, but there was this one time at my pistol club where I was loaned a gun that sights were completely screwed up, but, instead of getting frustrated, I saw it as more of a challenge to figure out where my point of aim need to be for my expected point of impact and think this actually helped me a bit learning archery as I first looked for consistency while many of the other beginners chased their arrows around the target by making too many changes too quick.

    Oh well, that's just me. Feel like I'm rambling on a bit long for such an old vid, lol

  45. Whenever I get tired or exausted i take a break every 10 minutes and go back to shooting again or i shoot at a closer target. never thought of bale shooting though thanks for the advice.

  46. I dont do archery yet, but I cant tell you the exact sort of thing happens to me with a certain type of online game that in long doses can reduce me to suicidal rage… and ik im not exaggerating.

  47. Great video. I wasted a whole night trying to figure out what was wrong. My form got so bad my shoulder was in pain for a few days after. I couldn't clear my mind, or focus properly and it just went completely south. Ive had this issue with Compounds, but with my recurve its so much worse. Everytime I think I know something, I realize I know nothing. Luckily, I pulled through it by focusing on my goals. A temper tantrum is no excuse for not being the best shot I can be.

  48. Sometimes taking some time off can help you though. I just got back to archery after an almost 2 year hiatus, and before I stopped I was having really bad shots, I couldn't tune my bow right, everything felt wrong. Now, I stopped not because of that, but due to other life priorities.

    Now that I got back, I shot my out of tune bow a few times, felt what I needed to do to get it back in tune, and re-tuned it nicely in just 2 days, and now I'm back to shooting like I was on my good days, just lacking the stamina after such a long time off.

    If you love the sport, you can't quit for long, it beckons you back.

  49. I've never knew anything about archery before your videos began auto playing. handsome guy and entertaining and informative videos. I get to crush on someone and learn something at the same time now. thanks !

  50. hundreds of.. thousands to just.. leave it!? When I was a competetive fencer you got the best of both worlds because you must strike a Target on a body and so I'd just wind the timer down and never lunge until maybe two seconds remained then in the second round do the exact opposite but purposely miss from the start. by the final round my opponents we're so confused about what the hell just happened as soon as I heard that bell just nothing but aggression lunge with precision pary but basically don't stop rushing the now stunned 42 year old Ukrainian man that flew all the way to the USA just to go out on the first found to a tiny 21 year old. after I won I knew rage was coming but you're bolted to eketronics by cord so it actually makes you look even dumbed cause you wanna say something as he's storming out of the room still strapped into 1000$ electronic vest a wire and the last thing you realize is … oh shit I'm also strapped to this machine haha it was chaos my coach never taught me that but idk I thought the rage quit was the better than any trophy. I guess every sport has sore losers 😂

  51. I got archery frustration with the compound bow, I wasn't getting six gold ends and was beating myself up about it, it stopped being fun !! But, rather than pack it up , I got myself a cheap Olympic recurve set up and put the fun back into my shooting and my forms improved my attitude has got better and I'm loving my archery again . I kept my compound equipment and will definitely go back to it but it has to be fun

  52. I've been in a slump for a while myself my tips keep sliding back into the shaft but I've determined that my arrows are probably just old and can't handle the force of my compound bow anymore

  53. I'm not an archer, but similarly when I was in high school tennis, kids would smash or toss their rackets out of anger. These rackets can be $100-200. For a high schooler, that's not expendable. Another thing I don't get is when people throw controllers, and even fightsticks when competing, these controllers are mad expensive. Fightsticks are hard to get too

  54. this is a case of archer rage that happened to another guy across from me. younger kid maybe 15 tops, has his own equipment and such, comes into the range while i am having my first ever try with my girlfriend, he gets warmed up, and my girlfriend gets tired, so i take her arrows and start doing double the shots per set, kid starts getting annoyed because my grouping is closer than his, and i am firing all 6 of my arrows faster than he is firing his 3. after a bit my girlfriend says outloud she is impressed because this is my first try, the kid puts his bow down immediately and walks off, not firing another shot

  55. when I went to an academy our marksmanship instructor talked about "the point of diminishing returns." It's the point in the training where a candidate, usually one who has never really shot a gun before, will continue to do worse if they do not receive a break in firearms training. They talked about how a mental break is necessary in order for them to process what they learned and gets the muscles they need to shoot well. Those candidates generally benefit from a day or two off the range before really benefiting from the lessons taught earlier. Sometimes you just need a break.

  56. My third or fourth time out shooting I was at the range and at 20 yards my first arrow hit the wall three feet over the target. My second arrow hit a foot higher and bounced all the back to the firing line. I was so upset, I put down my bow and went to talk to to the range owner about why my bow was defective. He just said, "you forgot to screw the tips onto your arrows". Oops.

  57. When i aggravated from life, I used archery as an outlet. I found that if you make a bigger target you miss less lol! I came from compound bows, so if I cared too much about 3 inch groups at 40 yards Id ditch my recurve. To me the joy comes from getting everything just right and….not missing the entire target hehehe

  58. Not on a range, but when working on motorcycles yes! Tools have on occasion gone across the garage at high speed never to be seen again. I can't imagine getting to that point on any kind of firing range! My range experience is in pistols, not archery, but just getting into archery for the first time since I was a kid at summer camp, at 50 yrs, and recovering from a few bouts of something like a stroke, that the doctors say were not strokes, but didn't know what they were. I can only consider any range time as a relaxing time with an emphasis on physical therapy. What ever they were, they left me weak as a kitten for several years. I've got I don't know how much of my strength back now, but I'll be starting off with a 35 lb bow and work on form. I'll work my way up to 50lb. Right after the first incident, a friend let me try pulling his 50lb, and I couldn't do it. I was amazed. With the pistols, it just got boring if I wasn't on point one day. Nothing to get pissed about. Come back another day, things will be different.

  59. I just started with archery, but every time I get a bad set I remind myself that these aren't bullets, and I can use them again! Otherwise, when I have a few shots that are off, I just make sure that I concentrate on my form, and check off every step, not just letting go from muscle memory. Archery is challenging, but relaxing at the same time, you need a zen-like focus.

  60. As a former eSports player, it's easy to fall into the same "trap". When this happened, I took the time to watch replays to see what I was doing wrong, I tried not to blame anything but myself so in the end – I always felt in control of this even during slumps because in the end, it is just me who's the problem and since it is me and I'm in control of myself: I can get back on track, if I do it smart and calmly. Sometimes when it really does not go well, the best thing to do is to take a little break and go back to the basics because sometimes you're so competitive with yourself that you expect perfection and it could become less fun: back to basics and also back to the first reason you're doing this sport (eSports in my case) which is because you simply like it. You also have to accept that you're not going to win everything, and you're not going to be a hundred percent every single day – some days you just have to let it happen and try to enjoy just "playing". Same applies DURING competitions, some opponents have more experience and you simply do not have it YET – what I usually recommend when I coach is to simply not think about the score, not think about how "bad" you're doing right now but just go step by step – round by round. Don't bother yourself much with the scores, how "late" you seem to be against your opponent. Just think of "now" and focus on yourself (and your team, if your game is a team game) and keep the vibes positive. These are some things I've learned throughout my 10 years in eSports and it's allowed me to win quite a few things. Since I plan on picking up archery (and I've been watching your videos for a month and a half now, because I like to know where I'm going), I know I will be using my experience on it too. I call the whole process of cooling down frustration and going over basics again: a reset. It can be mental, or technical… or both. I know eSports and Archery are very different, but the approach – in my opinion – remains the same for any sports.

  61. This reminds me of a time when I was playing a table tennis doubles game and, for every two serves I got to do, I missed the first one. I felt so friggin mad at myself…

  62. My coach described archery like a roller coaster. You can have a great climb and feeling great at the top, but sometimes you can have a drastic drop and there's no way to avoid it, but if you continue to focus and train there will be more upwards slopes and after a long time you could have plains that you shoot well for a very long time without dropping in quality. The masters and novices alike have these feelings, it's just knowing when to let go for the day but not forever.

  63. I almost rage quit 3 months ago
    Reson: lost arrows in the forest
    I took a break for 3 months and restarded last week.
    And now next year im going in regional competition and in 2020 in a provincial were the best of my province will compete. Its like the olympiques but on a provincial scale.
    Im happy I came back to archery its the sport that im best at and the only one in my family so that helps me differ.
    And your videos greatly help me get and get back in archery so thank you

    Sorry for the grammar erros (my first language french) and not from France from Canada 🇨🇦

  64. Rage is strictly forbidden 🚫 in my club. We all know that it is easy for each other to internalize each other’s rage an ruin the day for EVERYONE. I should mention this is a para club, but to a significant degree it does affect most people. Nobody wants to be on the line trying to focus while someone has a meltdown on the other end (see #5 of this series).

    Beyond, when trainIng is less enjoyable one doesn’t perform AS well. This even goes for professional (military and police) firearm users. They may be known for some amazing shots in a real life situation, and even come up with an rare insight in the field that steps up there skills, but they can always do it better/more consistently when they are enjoying themselves instead of under stress. This is why some employ some tactics to keep endorphins coursing through them BEFORE the stress and adrenaline work against them.

    Back to my club, I’ve never seen a meltdown on the archery team, but I’ve seen the effect of negative attitudes in other sporting events which reached a point of needing to intercede. The staff are very good about making it as seamless as possible, and even though the damage was already done, restoring normalcy back into the event. It’s amazing how easy it is to acknowledge things weren’t perfect, note that it’s a PRIVATE matter how the situation is handled between them as the organizer and the individual acting out, and then remind everyone what their next goals are.

    I do intend to bring up the idea of warm up form practice at our next session. Our limited space on the shooting line often leaves people a little restless dwelling on not so great shots, that could be a great time to focus on form with band practice.

  65. I am glat that shot just for fun break 20-30 arrows ewery year and laught at it on historical tournaments end on last places and has fun with it
    I shot tumb archery few last years becouse with it I can have more fun
    There is not a way to get angry 😉

  66. This "Archer rage" happens for me from time to time. Mostly when I get angry it is due to me making failures and knowing I could do it better. Normally I shoot around 300 to 350 rings with 60 arrows at 18m. (Still learning although shooting for some years now) On one tournament I suddenly shot 499 rings and everything felt great. But on the next week I was back to 280 rings and I knew I could do better but the harder I tried, the worse were my shots. I tried hard to find the difference I made on this tournament, but all I can say is that it just felt right on that day.

    And that is where you notice, how much concentration is needed for archery. You need to come back to just shooting – not trying to hit something. You just shoot and need to let all feelings and all thinkings aside. DONT THINK, when shooting. And this is very hard. But I kept shooting just for fun and after 2 months I got better again. Not as good as 499/600 but at least 350 or 380 again.

    1 month ago I switched my bow from a wooden recurve (SAMIK or similar) to a metal/carbon one and from 24 pound to 28 pound. Wow is this heavy – not for my pulling arm, but for the bow arm. I am not very trained and I start to shake my bow arm after around 4 to 6 times 6 arrows without a brake. I shoot for 30m now, because end of may is a small tournament with this distance. When I shoot now, my first one to three arrows each pass hit the golden part. The others ones at least score points, even if it is only 1. That's a muscular Problem. I need more muscles. Of Course I could use my SAMIK bow and never change, but I want to train and be able to shoot 90m sometime in the future. And here I am training now and getting better, slowly but steady. I don't expect good results in the tournament but shooting for fun – and hey… nobody knows what happens. Maybe they are all worse then me. Hehe. XD

    Oh, and since I found the correct shoulder position (locking the shoulder) it is a bit easier to hold that bow. That was 2 weeks ago. It is more to the back and not so much down, so the one bone of the shoulder on the back moves to the… omg, I don't know the names in english. The flat triangle bone on back part of the shoulder is moving to the cylinder formed one in the middle of the back from Head down to the missing tail. XD XD XD
    I always thought I were already right but it seems I still have to learn. Next the release and my head position have my attention.

    Always hit the gold!!!

  67. Damn, these videos are SOOOOO annoying!! 😉 I go to a lot of garage sales. Some days I swear that every other garage sale has a set of golf clubs. I should've taken up golf and forgotten about archery. I probably would've saved a lot of money.

  68. Why do people often label archery as a sport? It's a skill. The only time something becomes a sport is when you put rules in it, and compete with others.

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