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Archery | 5 Reasons Why I Can’t Help You

August 11, 2019

Hey guys, this is NUSensei. As of this video, I have over 5 million views on my channel, most of which come from archery. That’s really cool! Unfortunately, it also brought a lot of extra behind-the-scenes work. Things like, answering emails, doing YouTube comments, handling Facebook messages, and thankfully I don’t have Twitter. That would really suck my time. But, it’s been interesting to interact with people, help people, and learn from people. So it’s a good experience. Now, admittedly things have kind of quieted down a bit over the last year or so. Perhaps, because I’ve preempted most begginer questions, and I’ve made videos for that. So, people ask less, and thank more. That’s good too! Now, for the questions I do get, something I feel kind of bad that I can’t really help some people, and this isn’t really meant to be a whinge or complaint. This is kind of, from my perspective, some of the problems I have when I’m trying to help you. So, in this video we’ll go through my top 5 reasons about why I can’t really help you. I appreciate that my channel appeals to a lot of different archers, and that’s really good. Unfortunately, I’m not a compound shooter, and I get a lot of compound bow questions that I can’t answer. I know enough generally, to guide you in the right direction, and some things overlap, but for the most part if you ask me for very specific, technical information, or you want me to troubleshoot your bow, I am NOT the best person to ask. This is a similar problem to what you might encounter in real life; this is especially for your local archery store, that might be over specialized in compound, or recurve for hunting, or target, and it’s not enough expertise in the field that you need, and it might be compound. Now, the market is compound dominated; there are far more compound resources and materials, and generally more people shoot compound than recurve. So, I’m in the opposite situation here so, I’m providing more assistance to recurve shooters than compound shooters, but really I just don’t know enough about compound bows to really give you proper advice. If you’re asking me about general things like, how compounds work, and the differences between compound and recurve, then I can help you, but if you are asking about differences between different bows like the PSE Stinger X, or the Mission Craze, or HOYT Carbon Spyder, or you ask me about different release aids, I don’t know. Look, I don’t know you. We’re strangers, and I don’t mean this in a bad way but, I literally don’t know who most of you are. So, it’s really hard for me to make a personal recommendation to you, without knowing anything about you. It’s like if you ask me what clothing you should buy. I don’t know what you like, I don’t know what you prefer, or need. I’d just be like, putting out random brand names and just hoping for the best. That’s a similar thing with archery. I get some kind of really personal preference questions, things like, should I shoot recurve or compound. I can’t tell you that. I can tell you what they are, and why a lot of people like shooting them, but i can’t tell you what you should be using. So, yeah, there are some limitations as to what I can do. It’s like, you know, if you do shoot recurve, and you ask me, what bow should I buy? Well, there are hundreds that I can recommend, and without any guidance I can’t really streamline towards a good bow, because, all the bows are mostly good. So I would say like, a Samick Sage, or if you’re shooting compound, Diamond Infinite Edge because these are safe buys. The bows work, you can find them in most places. So, a lot of my advice for this sort of thing is very generic and vague, That’s mostly because, if I don’t have much to work with then I can’t really give you much specific advice. So, if I can’t recommend a certain movie that you would like, then I can’t really recommend a bow that you would like. Here is a list of bows that I recommend, that are under 100$. [Cricket sound] Look, I get it, you’re cheap, and it may be for good reasons. Maybe you are interested in archery, and you’re not really sure if you’ll commit to it. You want to spend the least amount of money to try it out. That’s fair. Maybe you have a very limited budget, you’re saving for something, you have a family, or maybe you’re a college student, or a high school student so you don’t have your own income to support your archery interest. So, these things make sense. But, the lower you go, the harder it is for me to recommend decent gear. Now, I’m not saying you need to buy a 2000$ Olympic bow. If you just go for a basic recurve, you don’t need to spend more than 150$, but, if you start going below 100$, like, there’s really nothing out there that can really serve the purpose that you need it for. You might get youth bows for 50$, and that might be all you want, but that’s not something I recommend because it’s not a very good archery experience. It’s very limiting, and really if you want to start archery with the lowest possible price, think about “Do It Yourself” projects like, PVC bows that can cost you 10$. But, if you’re not into making your own equipment, and you don’t want to spend more than 50$ or 100$, maybe archery isn’t right for you, at this point in time. Alternatively, go to an archery range, spend 20$ on a single lesson, and they’ll give you an archery fix. But in terms of buying equipment there’s really not that much I can suggest to you, unless you have a bit more flexibility with your budget. Oh, and, some people have been very literal on what I’ve been saying about 100$ bows. I had a message recently where someone pointed out “I found a PSE Razorback for 99$. Is this a cheap bow?”. No, it’s not that kind of bow. The PSE Razorback is a good bow, it’s a standard, entry level recurve. There’s nothing wrong with it. Normally, these things cost about 120$ – 180$, and that’s what I mean by the typical standard, entry level bow, that costs between US$100 – US$200. So, if you can find this kind of bow, for a cheaper price, fantastic! That’s a good deal. But, I’m not literally saying every bow below 100$ is crap. What I’m saying is, under $100 you often find cheap, fibre glass, plastic like, youth bows. Over 100$ you start seeing the wooden recurve, which work for anybody who just wants to get into archery. That’s the division. So, you can get a decent bow for a better price, but if you are looking at a decent bow below a 100$, you’re really limited, and I can’t really recommend, say fibreglass bows as your first choice. That’s just for recurve, by the way, if you’re looking at compound, you need a lot more than 100$. I’d say for like, the cheapest, decent compound bow you should budget at least US$300 – US$400, for a decent set of options for a first compound bow. One of the biggest limitations is that, I don’t have access to a lot of equipment. I don’t have access to products that people want me to review. Sights, stabilizers, risers, limbs. I can’t get these things without spending thousands of dollars in things I don’t need. It was only last year when I was starting to be given some products to review, the Samick Sage, and the OMP Adventure 2.0, but personally, I only have one bow that I normally use. That’s the Win&Win Inno CXT which you’ve seen me shoot in my Olympic videos. So, I haven’t really handled that many products outside of the people in my club. You know, I sometimes help out, and I’ve handled their equipment. I don’t have much shooting time or any shooting time with any other product. So, if you ask me about, differences between the HOYT Excel, and the HOYT Horizon, and HOYT ION X, I don’t really know, I mean even with like, Win&Win products, you ask me how is the WinEX? I don’t know either. I can only say from what I’ve seen or handled or heard, but for the most part, I don’t have access to the products that you want me to review, or give you advice on. I mean, you can still ask me, but I’m probably not going to give you a good answer, just because i haven’t used that many bows. I am, for the most part, a self funded archer, and I’m not going to buy 20 bows just to review, and then use them at different days of the month. This is the advantage that pro shops have. There are a few pro shops that do have YouTube channels. I recommend channels like “Lancaster Archery Supplies” and normal “Archery Supplies”. They do regular equipment reviews for new stock, and new products, and they’re often the first to know about new releases, so they’re probably better sources than me. I’m not really in the loop, I’m very reactionary, like, when something comes out, I’m like “Oh! It came out!”, I may try it out, but beyond that I’m not going to be the leading edge in reviews, and I just don’t have much experience in handling things. Like I said, you can ask me, but I’m probably not going to be a good source. A lot of people see me as the online coach. That’s cool! I don’t really see myself as a coach but, you know, if other people see me as a respectable figure of authority or information, then that’s great. Unfortunately, a lot of coaches will say the same thing here; Archery is very personalized. I can’t really help you unless I know who you are, or I have seen you shoot personally. Now, of course people still ask, that’s fine, but there are two problems that come with this. The first problem is that often people lack the expertise or vocabulary to accurately describe the problem. So, it’s kind of a little vague as to what the problem actually is. The second thing is, sometimes what you described isn’t the actual problem. Maybe you have a preconceived notion of what you think you’re doing wrong and that can kind of form a biased opinion or a skewed opinion towards something. So, I’m a little weary about giving you advice right away. I have to assess the sitation a bit more carefully, and the more information I have the better. The best information is a video form check. If you actually give me something I can see and watch, I can give you more accurate feedback. It’s not perfect, but it’s better than just having text where, what you describe doesn’t match the problem. It’s similar to the whole, like, “House M.D.” thing where the patient always lies. I’m not saying that as a student you lie to me, but sometimes what you say masks other things, and as a coach, I would have to see past the problem that you say, to identify the real source. Otherwise, I’m just giving you advice that might steer you away from certain things, but doesn’t solve the actual problem. So, yeah, unless I can actually see you shoot, either in person, or at best through a video, then it’s sometimes just really hard for me to give you more accurate feedback. Other things like technical knowledge or general advice, yeah I can share that, but yeah, your specific shooting style, form, or technique is yours, and I can’t give you that much training and coaching advice over the internet without something a bit more visible. So, that’s my 5 most likely reasons why can’t help you. You can still ask me, of course, but, you know, if I don’t know, I’ll tell you I don’t know. Not because I’m being a snob, or because I have better things to do, but if I can’t help you then, I’m not going to pretend I can help you. And hopefully you’ll find the information elsewhere. I’m just one source, there are many other people you can ask, and many other videos, channels, and websites, and blogs, and handbooks that you can look up. But, for the most part I can handle a lot of things, but I might not be the best to ask for others. So, hopefully this gives you some more insight as to where I come from. Feel free to continue asking questions in my videos, or through email, or Facebook, or through my monthly Q&A’s. I’m quite happy to help out. But there are limitations which I admit I have. So, that’s my take, hopefully this gives you some more perspective as to where I’m coming from, and how you can help yourself, and help me help you. Otherwise, this NUSensei, thanks for watching and I’ll see you next time.

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  1. For those in Sydney, may I recommend Abbey Archery who have a small lane at the back of the store to allow you to try bows before you make a decision. This is invaluable especially for compound bows that vary markedly in weight and feel.

  2. not sure how much indoor shoots you do, but just wondering have you ever thought about coming to the US to shoot in the Las Vegas shoot?

  3. I have to say PVC bows yes are less than desirable people, but it allowed me to skip the beginner step and enabled me to enjoy archery and see that I wanted to pursue it for about 13 USD. And that's including an arrow or two, and it took me one shot to get hooked on archery.

  4. hey nu.
    I was chatting with the local shop.
    here in Canada.
    which is compound biased.
    but was told that world wide
    there are 3 registered recurve
    archers for every one registered compound archer.
    now in Canada USA and I would assume Australia. it's dramatically reversed. and compound bows are the growth part of the sport.
    though according to the pro
    a former junior world champion in compound. he and the industry is seeing growth across the types in North America.
    note the key is registered archers.
    like Australia. Canada has a national and provincial archer associations. as does the USA.
    like you I shoot recurve. and at some events I have actually been the only recurve archer.
    but lately I've been 1 of many.
    we are still heavily out numbered.
    but not alone.
    have fun n thanks for your posts.

  5. I shoot a 50 lb compound bow with a 30 inch draw (no stabilizers/release aids/silencers) and I would like to shoot recurve as well. Should I get a 40 lb samick sage or a 45lb samick sage? Im not sure because the 50 lb bow I shoot can get a little tiring after a couple dozen shots

  6. good humor you always make smile; as a fellow teaching archer you vids are very use-able they hold the interest of the kids i work please keep doing it you got it nailed when it comes to youth, most likely with your educator's background, my guess you are awesome at it, reason #6 some people are unwilling to learn!! -Tom

  7. I am a new archer ( just under a year) and I shoot a compound bow (around 45#) I am interested in getting a recurve (2 really one for me and one for my son) I want to stay in the neighborhood of $200.00 dollars each) I am thinking about around 30# for me and 20 or so for my son. I do want mount inserts though so we can use them for bow fishing. I know the Smack is one many people recommend but how do the others in that range stack up?

  8. i find all your videos very informative and i have learned a lot. i just ordered a PSE Summit G2 with a 24# draw for my first bow because i live in a very humid climate and i want my bow to last longer than a wooden bow out here. i think i made the right choice for my first bow according to all your good advice. thanks for all your input and keep it up.

  9. I feel that some people can be overly obsessive about certain issues in their form, but whatever they're taking a microscope to, isn't the problem, and as a coach, you sort of learn to drown them out so you can look at their whole form instead.

  10. Hey nu, im looking into getting into compound archery. Is there a source of knowledge here on youtube that you'd recommend i direct my questions to?

  11. You are wise beyond your years! Thank you for telling the truth about what you know and what you can do . . . 😉

  12. For me your video reviews on Olympic recurves, BB recurves, and some just plain recurves are great, honest and straightforward which help any recurve shooter. Oh you also do a great job on arrows. I have been shooting LB and recurves for 25+ years and I really like how you present your reviews. You know your stuff and are honest. Keep up the good work and hope you enjoy yourself. Thank you. Alan

  13. you should do a " if you see this happening." field demonstration. for example I am trying to learn to make my own arrows as cheaply as possible, while there is wild variation in target accuracy, I would like to know what each inaccuracy means, like a wide spread, a short range, a constant veering to the right, and other common symptoms of poor shooting form or poor equipment choice and the quick remedy for those examining by issue rather than by solution. just a FAQ episode.

  14. Was this video pre mandarin duck phantom review? My understanding is that it's about the only bow for under 100, he was rather impressed with.

  15. You should write companies and ask for free goodies that you can do video spotlights on. I mean your Samick Sage video is what made me decide to buy from Samick to begin with.

  16. Here’s a weird question for you : I’m interested in archery for the simple love of ballistics.

    This means I would eventually tinker with the arrows until I essentially make them from scratch.

    Is archery really realistic for me? My only other real choice is mortars, and I’d probably blow myself up.

  17. Ha! I collect swords and armor as a hobby. Bows and archery equipment are downright cheap by comparison.

  18. Thanks for all the videos. I'm a former pretty good archer (former NY state champion), but have a degenerative neurological problem that prevented me from shooting for the last 20 years. I miss it dearly, I thought it was going to be a life sport. Nevertheless, it's fun to hear all the old archery chatter again. Flabergasted at what Hoyts sell for these days. I have an old TD-4 with two sets of carbon limbs, do you think anyone would be nterested in buying it. Comes with case and stabilizers. TFCs are a little worn.

  19. You are a great resource for information, for example your training video, this can be use with either recurve or compound bows. We just have to adapt it. Thank you very much.

  20. Just trying to gain knowledge

    Kind of like me , I have limited knowledge on most stuffs , I’m not going to BS on a subject I don’t know about

    My compound cost me about $2,000 (upgrades stuff) , not even to mention replacement of arrows .. easily $100 for a pack of 8-12 and those are the low end , get the job done .

  21. Hey Nu Sensei. Late reply, I know. I was looking to break into an ILF setup. My draw length is 27" (68.6 cm). Should I be scaling down to a 66" setup or going up to 68"?

  22. I have to spend recurve x4 for myself and my family. So instead of spending $700-1000 for myself, I have to divide it up for all of us. I found a nice one through Lancaster Archery.

  23. I like the crickets on the under $100 bow. I also noticed this video is well before your review on the Mandarin Duck Phantom. Would you say that is a recommended bow for under $100

  24. NUSensei, I didn't attend an archery course yet but I'd like to ask what is there to do on the course? I get that you come in, they teach you the what, when, where about how to stand, how to shoot, how to aim, how to whatever. But ok, you train with that, and get all of the technique down to pretty much perfect. Then what? You could have smaller targets, targets further away but you can do that by yourself too especially if you own a bow. Or is this just something where you get to your peak and then it's just practice, practice, practice which can be done basically by yourself too without an archery club?

  25. Hey NuSensei, I stumbled on your channel a few days ago and I've been loving the videos. I've been shooting Compound bows for a while now and I'm wanting to move to a more traditional bow (not olympic level with all the bells & whistles just a traditional one) what would you reccomend in that one? Also not sure if this has been suggested but for point number 5 in this video, if people are still asking for that kind of advice (where it's better to see what they're doing) you could have them record themselves shooting 5 to 10 arrows and send it to you. This way you get to see what they're doing and they could possibly get the advice they're looking for. Just a thought.

  26. For various bows "on the cheap", or rather, inexpensive, check out yard sales, pawn shops, and such. Both of the current bows I own, an Astro compound bow, and a PSE Stalker recurve takedown bow, I spent about $20 each. I've had years of good service from both. The most I've had to do for upkeep has been to upgrade my sights a bit on my compound, replace a string or two, cables once, and a bow mounted quiver because the old one got worn out. In fact, I've used my "cheap" compound bow so much that I recently "refinished" it with a bit of camo duct tape!
    Good quality, inexpensive bows are out there, you just need to know where to look.

  27. NU Sensei Should I wear this recurve with the low tops, or this compound with these high tops?

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